Can somebody explain the changes in banking to a complete dumbo?



WiFi calling is only available from some (rather few) providers and you need a recent (usually expensive) mobile. It's an expensive option for anyone who doesn't normally spend a lot on their mobile.

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That’s not true of the now older iphones that apple sells more more cheaply than they originally sold that model for.

That’s just plain wrong.

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So, I currently spend maybe £20 per year on my mobile, are you telling me that I don't need to spend significantly more to get reliable WiFi calling?
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Nope, I am saying that I get wifi calling for just $10/per month for unlimited calls and texts and SMSs to any landline or mobile in the country and 1GB of data and not much more for more data. And that it doesn’t cost much to get a wifi mobile capable phone even if you insist on it being brand new and you can obviously get a used one cheaper.
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So $120/year (do you really mean dollars) isn't expensive compared with my £20/year or so? ... and I'd need to buy a new phone.
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Yep.

No, that your cost is atypically low.
And if you want your low cost, just get a prepaid sim from a provider that does wifi calling and only use it for incoming code SMSs so it costs you no call or SMS fees.

Only because you were too stupid to get one that does wifi calling.
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It doesn't work so well with 484kb/s connection. And I don't think it works for SMS anyway.

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On 01/08/2019 10:09, Roger Hayter wrote:

It certainly works with SMS
I take it you mean 448kbps
It tends to prefer > 1Mbps, true.
However if wifi calling does not work then a brioadband connected femtocell will not, either.
My original point was that buying a phone that could do wifi calling was (certainly for me) a far better solution than buying a femtocell.
That is, if a femtocell will work, its better and cheaper to buy a wifi calling capable phone

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Yes, though it has been down to 160kbps, and up to 608

I agree. I don't think O2 ever supported femtocells, but they did have an app to do WiFi calling some years back before phones supported it more directly.

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 10:41:42 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote:

And don't confuse using a VOIP app with WiFi Calling, they aren't the same thing.
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The O2 app used the usual mobile number for incoming and outgoing calls. WiFi Calling is a form of voice over IP even if not standard VOIP. What is the essence of the distinction?
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On 01/08/2019 23:03, Roger Hayter wrote:

different protocols
Wifi calling tunnels *mobile* packets across the internet.
It doesnt build a native IP transport for e.g. voice.
The advantage is seamless transfer betweenm cell and wifi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Access_Network
(note that the above is out of date)
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On 01/08/2019 10:09, Roger Hayter wrote:

Three did when I had it, but they have withdrawn the app that worked on every android phone so I can't use it now and I am not buying a new phone to be able to do so. I may as well switch to someone cheaper now, maybe tesco on O2.
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Works fine.

Yes it does.

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:45:21 +1000, Swer wrote:

What about those of us whose phone service provider doesn't offer WiFi calling?
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On 01/08/2019 22:15, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Change provider to one who does
It it bvecame a must have they would all provide it soon enough
Its odd that they dont becaquise it takes pressure off their infrastucture and puts it onto OpenReach's.
I think everyone has gone 5G mad. Wifi on every lamp post would be better
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On 02/08/2019 06:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I proposed that in 2007 (IIRC). neither BT or any other supplier wanted to bear the cost. I suggested that they would use a mesh network and control the lamps from it and do fault reporting.
These days it might get trough as it would be easy to track RFID identity cards to lamppost level. I did also suggest that but I don't think it ever got to GCHQ as a proposal.
It might have got to the white house as did some of the other security stuff I proposed for networks, I do know Cisco were told to implement some of it under presidential orders, but I never found out which bits or if they use it.
There is quite a lot of stuff in networks that hollywood still gets wrong even though its been untrue for decades.
Like having to have a call answered to trace it.
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On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 09:27:50 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

Keep up at the back, such dedicated lamp post mesh systems do exist now with all manner of features from CCTV down.
GIYF...
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On 02/08/2019 10:05, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Want to tell me which ones in 2007?
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dennis@home wrote:

Proposed three years before then
<https://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/01/15/wireless_lamp_posts_take_over
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