There's a lockable cage available in the mfi catalogue.
A child safety gate to keep them out of the kitchen is what's needed.
How does the OP deal with them touching dangerous things not in the
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
Sorry to preach!!!!!!!! BUT ....................
Small children don't belong in kitchens, especially at floor or any
other level; period. In most cities/countries there are too many
accidents in kitchens, ranging from scalding, pulling out heavy
drawers and or getting into cleaning materials under the sink etc.
Unless, perhaps, a child strapped in a high chair being fed in a
supervised manner at kitchen table level by an attentive adult.
Our 16 month old is now 28+ and working in the Middle East. However he
and ourselves still remember the low plywood door that I installed
between the kitchen and the family room. I could step over it but it
could only be opened from the kitchen side by a bolt out of his reach!
and the family room which was in direct view of anyone in the kitchen
was child proofed.
At a later age he had a habit of accessing a kitchen cabinet above one
counter where medications were kept. The hole for an eye bolt that
enabled that cupboard to be pad-locked, is still there!
Training about "hot" and "nasty" and "hurt you" had already started by
the age of 16 months. However that son is is now a very competent-do-
it-yourselfer; capable of fixing anything from the air conditioning of
a vehicle in the desert. The electrics/electronics of of an oil
pipeline pumping system, repairing his quad or dirt motorbike, or
additionally fixing just about anything anything on our sailboat or
around this house!
Dare I say he's more diverse than his old man and a pleasure to have
So PLEASE keep 'any' child out of the kitchen.
Its a skill that even adults no longer have. They THINK that putting
stuff in a dishwasher is actually 'washing up' and faced with a really
caked saucepan the one time they DIDN'T do pot noodles they simply throw
it away and swear never to touch the cooker again.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in news:1185273671.433518.61810@
The original poster asks a simple DIY type question and gets flooded with
gratuitous, often useless, child care advice !
How about just answering the question and leaving your own, often
uninformed, opinions to yourself ?
Alternatively, you could form a new group - alt.gratuitousopinions ?
A DIY Enthusiast
Gratuitous and uninformed eh?
'Simple' DIY question? Huh!
So: If I asked advice about the easiest/cheapest and illegal way of
getting into the EU, from say North Africa, you should reply only
about the 'how to do it', of that question?
Not that it is illegal, dangerous and probably best not attempted?
Also that many wouldn't recommend and that deaths sometimes occur?
Or if your pet kept getting mauled by a Pit Bull or Rottweiler down
the street with consequent vet. bills you should do nothing except try
to remember to put the latch on the oven (oops, sorry) 'gate'
Sorry can't agree.
Even in this civilized part of the world (Canada) there have been too
many fatal, near fatal and in some cases maiming accidents involving
children; such an unnecessary waste!
And since we managed to train and bring up three of various ages, now
up their 40s with families of their own, without serious injury, we
feel, since the question was raised, that we have experience and an
opinion to express.
If, and only if, the poster had phrased his question along the lines of
"how do I prevent my child getting hurt by the oven" then you would be
The poster obviously knew of the dangers of the oven because he was
asking about locking devices!
None of us know the particular circumstances of the poster - perhaps they
only have a living room cum kitchen, perhaps they have already taken
every other possible precaution against harm and this is the only item
If the posting had been in a "child-safety" newsgroup, then the
gratuitous advice would have been appropriate.
In my youth, my mother would never have let me alone for an instant. ANY
aberrant behaviour got a sharp word or a smack. Indeed, this behaviour
persists to this day..sigh..
However, it is an interesting reflection that people today regard a
toddler as something that one can turn ones back on, even for an instant.
Out cat has a kitten: Up to about 8 weeks, that kitten was only left
alone for the time it took her to nip outside, do her business and nip
back in. And then ONLY when it was sound asleep. Later on, she would go
out for longer if one of the eunuch cats around was looking out for it.
Which they did. Sat staring at it every second.
The little terrier, who thought there was a new playmate, got a faceful
of claws when he tried. THAT learned him!
How is a child going to learn, if its not encouraged and corrected on
every action it makes? Shut and locked doors are merely puzzles to be
learnt: The only concept of danger is to experience pain. Until reason
starts to function, the only way to affect behaviour towards safety, is
to associate dangerous things with pain or anger. And reward safe
behaviour with approval and a cuddle.
I accept that in todays busy lifestyle, sometimes schooling is sub
optimal, but I don't think anyone should be deluded into thinking its
right or proper of good for children: its the lesser of two evils,
Childproof lock for an oven? easy. Weld a padlockable loop and slot
thing on it. Just don't forget the key when the turkey starts to burn.
Shove a heavy sandbag against it.
Construct a couple of hooks across the front of it and drop a bar into them.
Its not rocket science: The real question is why a child on approaching
something hot, and getting the door open to it, should have no concept
at that age that hot HURTS. I would take the child, open the door, get
him or her to touch the door on the outside "See, hot.." and then find
out which bit is JUST hot enough to touch and say 'touch that - see VERY
HOT, OUCH!' and the point inside and say 'VERY VERY HOT. HURT LOTS'
If the child fails to grasp the essential simplicity of the scenario,
I'd be inclined to let Darwin take his course as it were.
Safety consciousness consists in only getting a little bit hurt, or
narrowly and comprehensibly avoiding getting hurt a LOT. Encapsulating a
child in a cocoon of cotton wool is fine as long as you can guarantee
that he never needs to come out of it.
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