Cable connectors for telephone wiring

[Sneezy]

Lee wrote in news:c03jm7$12n9hf$ [e-mail]:

I'm not being precise enough :) "Normally" I think NTL put the brown box on the outside of a building and feed a cable through to a master box on the inside. In my house, both boxes are on the inside. So if I were with NTL, would my responsibility start with the master socket or the brown box? Both are inside the property - the cable from the box to the socket runs across the cellar ceiling. The brown box also has a co-ax cable - it used to connect to a box in the living room for TV (presumably). It now connects to a box in the bedroom that supplies broadband. I think BT would have something to say if I climbed up a telegraph pole or started poking around in a green cabinet but would NTL say anything about poking around in "their" brown box that's inside a customer's property?

[Lurch]

Yes it is, it displaces the insulation to connect, so an Insulation Displacement Connector then. ..

SJW A.C.S. Ltd.

[Lee]

All the NTL installations I've seen use a standard master socket... Unless they only do that in this area :)

Lee

[Lurch]

They would if you told them, I'm always altering Cable boxes, BT lines and anything else. I don't tell them I do, they don't tell me not to! ..

SJW A.C.S. Ltd.

[Lee]

I see, my guess would be that NTL would claim to "own" all the coax wiring, judging by their discouragement of any DIY work on this part, and probably up to the master socket for the phone. I know BT claim any internal junction boxes before the master socket are theirs. Any NTL installers on here? :)

Lee

[Lurch]

I think I know what you're saying. Yes, IDC is a _type_ of connector. Some types need tools, some don't. If you meant something different, you'll have to come back for a different answer! ..

SJW A.C.S. Ltd.

[Lee]

Grin :) What are they going to do anyway :)

Lee

[Andy Hall]

Exactly.

On jellybean connectors there is a flat piece of metal with forks, sharp on the inside for where the wires go.

The wires are pushed into the holes in the body of the connector - into the jelly in fact - through to the back. The metal piece is then squeezed down and bites through the insulation and possibly even slightly into the wire. Jelly is displaced towards the holes on pushing the wires in and on crimping In effect the action is like the punchdown in reverse. You can do the crimp action easily with pliers.

.andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

[Bungle & Zippy]

Too bloody right Vic, he should post full frontal like yourself

[Reverend {Parson} Peter Parsni]

The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bungle & Zippy, and I thusly replied:

Unlike Harry, I don't go around making spurious complaints and then not being prepared to take the fallout when the shit hits the fan.

[Lurch]

Precisely, usually the reason I end up doing it is that the customer has been getting no joy out of NTL etc... My response would be one of 'having to', especially when it's something so simple as altering the route of a cable on a wall that was bodged in to start with. ..

SJW A.C.S. Ltd.

[Bungle & Zippy]

Is he not prepared Vic? Mark my words o rev one, the shit has by no means hit the fan just yet :D

[Lilian Leung]

*plonk*

[PoP]

They do here! We had 3 phone lines into our home (2 for business purposes), and all of them have an NTL master socket inside the house, with NTL's logo on the front.

PoP

Sending email to my published email address isn't guaranteed to reach me.

[PoP]

For ribbon cables to connect disk drives etc inside a PC a pair of pliers wouldn't be good enough because you need to close the connectors in parallel, use of a small vice is recommended.

PoP

Sending email to my published email address isn't guaranteed to reach me.

[Reverend {Parson} Peter Parsni]

The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bungle & Zippy, and I thusly replied:

Not for the ass raping he is currently receiving, no.

What's the matter? Too scared to post in uk.rec.caravanning, Harry?

[Peter Parry]

The proper tool has a 5mm gap in the jaws when fully closed - this gives the correct depth of insertion. It's quite easy if you have not used these crimps before to use too much force which weakens the joint and can split the insulation. A pair of Mole grips set to give a 5mm jaw gap or a large pair of pliers with a small nut taped near the jaw pivot to limit closing to 5mm is the best home made tool when you are first using jellybeans.

[Phil Kyle]

He's mental enough.

[Phil Kyle]

Didn't the police caution you about that, last time?

[Sneezy]

Peter Parry wrote in news: [e-mail]:

So that RS site charges £25 for something you can create yourself for less than £1? Wow.

BTW - I emailed you using my weirdly named email account re. the jellybeans. I should really remember to use my sneezy account but I forget :)