Butane vs Propane in cold temps

The main tank at the propane depot, is half buried below grade. That is the only tank I've seen, arranged that way. The farm ones are above ground.

Paul

If they are buried (more common in domestic settings) then they need to be set on a concrete base to stop them going a-floating if it floods.

I leave fish prep to the experts. Even if I could source a filleting knife with ease.

I don't get that. I've seen forklifts like that too, and have never been able to work out what is going on.

You put a new tank on, and it's full, so liquid propane comes out of the tap into the fuel system. OK, so the fuel system needs to run on that.

But then the tank runs down, and the liquid is all at the bottom of the tank.

Below the level of the outlet.

So only gas can be coming out.

Andy

They use special "FLT" cylinders which have a dip tube ...

So far, so good. Lowest UK temperature of -27C was recorded about 15 miles away from here but the highest in Scotland (+34) was miles away, south of Edinburgh.

I think the engines run on gas, but there is a device somewhere that turns the liquid into gas, if liquid turns up.

Oh its not hard to fillet a sardine or a mackerel, or a trout. Or cut steaks out of a Tuna fish!

It's herrings I draw the line at.

Often they are mounted horizontally with an L-shaped dip tube. Which way up is typically indicated by a big arrow saying "this way up".

I can't recall if it was a dover or a lemon sole, but once was enough.

Of course trying to find a fishmonger is now as much a challenge as finding a butcher.

IIRC our local Tescos has a good one.

several butchers in this area.

we have a butcher in our village - but the fishmonger vanished at lest 30 years ago. However, Waitrose have a decent fish counter.

You obviously haven't visited for a while. Tesco closed all its fish counters in 2023. My Sainsbury's no longer has one either.

My favourite butchers seems to be vanishing quicker than pubs. The one in my local Sainsbury's is no more as it also closed its butchery counter, our nearest Booths which had a great meat selection is now an Asda. My two "go to" independent butchers have also gone.

Dave

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Move up to Aberdeenshire - we have both in this village. More butchers in the villages east and west of us and a fresh fish van does the rounds weekly, from Peterhead I think.

Swings and roundabouts though. We have an excellent doctor's practice and chemist in the village, but nearest hospital is 40+ miles away.

Local Co-op serves us well, but nearest large supermarket is 25 miles with more choice 40 miles away.

Had a wonderful old fashioned ironmonger, but he has just retired, at

1. Nearest 25 miles away with 'sheds' 40 miles away.

We do have a baker though :-)

Propane is the gas of choice if you want to be able to use it at any time of year, not just warmer months.

But even at low temperatures propane produces less heat due to reduced pressure. For flying in the Alps hot-air balloon propane tanks are 'spiked' with nitrogen in order to increase the pressure. However, you need to burn all the propane in the tank before the ambient temperature rises because the pressure will then increase further. The nitrogen doesn't sit on top of the propane it mixes into it so you need to get rid of all the propane.

Malcolm