All these damn rules controlling every aspect of life!

[andymason79]

Especially building, gas, electric, windows, steelwork, insulation

ventalation, poop pipes etc!

Who is with me?

Lets bring back Maggie

-- andymason79

[andy hall]

Whether one agreed or disagreed with what she said or did, there was never any confusion over where she stood on an issue.

It seems that being definitive is no longer a valued political attribute.

[Chip]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:30:12 +0000,it is alleged that andymason79 spake thusly in uk.d-i-y:

10 years ago I would have said you were entirely barking. Now, I am with you.

By the way.. there are rules?

[Frank Erskine]

I'm not sure about Maggie, but somebody other than this current lot might make some sense.

[fred]

In article , andymason79 writes

Especially building, gas, electric, windows, steelwork, insulation, ventalation,

[Chip]

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:15:18 GMT,it is alleged that fred spake thusly in uk.d-i-y:

[snip]

Nah, there's nothing on the ID card that 15 seconds on high in the nuker won't fix :-)

[Doctor Drivel]

We need more judging by the shoddy cowboy work going on.

Only lunatics.

Yes. let's have mass poverty and deprivation for all except the super rich. Yes. that will put us all right. Yes, that is what we all need.

Was there a full moon recently?

[Doctor Drivel]

Yep, always the wrong stance, as the poverty and deprivation showed.

Intelligence, and common sense is better.

[Doctor Drivel]

So, you have turned barking in your old age too?

You should be locked up.

[Doctor Drivel]

Yes, someone who can bring mass poverty back to Sunderland again. Oh, the good old days.

[:::Jerry::::]

[ re current HMG ]

What, after yesterdays fiasco's?

FFS they can't even get their own MP's to support them!...

[:::Jerry::::]

insulation,

Oh I agree, t'will make you unemployable though!...

[fred]

In article , Chip writes

Ok, VOT but: The card is the tip of the iceberg, think more about:

Failure to attend an interview at a specified place and time Failure to provide information demanded by the government Failure to submit to fingerprinting Failure to notify the Secretary of State of any change in personal circumstances (including change of address) Failure to notify authorities about a lost, stolen, damaged or defective card Failure to renew a card

Penalties range from £1,000 fine to two years imprisonment.

1984 + 21 = 2005, ooh, George Orwell has come of age :-/

[Cenfus]

But the Thatcher Administration effectively ended poverty there (and elsewhere) by bringing supply and demand for labour back into balance: something that over-strong unions had been resisting for years. We now have full employment; something the Germans and French can only dream of. And why? endemic supply and demand imbalances, and an over-regulating state. These things tend to take decades to work through, which is why the benefits derived from the 1979 administration only really started to be seen in the late eighties and nineties, and the damage caused by the Blair administration (over-regulation, pension-fund raiding, government-sector over-manning) will take another decade to show through in lower productivity, wealth and living standards.

[Cenfus]

But the Thatcher Administration effectively ended poverty there (and elsewhere) by bringing supply and demand for labour back into balance: something that over-strong unions had been resisting for years. We now have full employment; something the Germans and French can only dream of. And why? they suffer from endemic supply and demand imbalances, and an over-regulating state. These things tend to take decades to work through, which is why the benefits derived from the 1979 administration only really started to be seen in the late eighties and nineties, and the damage caused by the Blair administration over-regulation, pension-fund raiding, government-sector over-manning) will take another decade to show through in lower productivity, wealth and living standards.

[Doctor Drivel]

Jerry, I know you are hard of thinking.

[:::Jerry::::]

A majority of ONE in a prime HMG Bill, it's there in the records, I know you don't like facts but...

Oh, and the withdrawal of an even more prime part of the said Bill, 'run rabbits, run'...

[Doctor Drivel]

My God!! Not another one.

My God!! He is on about unions and all. Not another one. The right wing press since WW2 has made the unions the bogy men of the British economy. Thatcher effectively ended the unions. All was going to be hunky dory and what happened? The economy kept sliding still. So it wasn't unions after all. It was incompetent management, of which Britain was famed for, and political system that favours privilege (Public school/Oxbridge and all that. Paxman puts the public schools and their influence as the cause of the post WW2 decline of the UK)

Not due to Thatcher. If you think that get professional help.

Nonsense.

You are deluded.

Damage? The longest rate of economic growth in history. And this turkey says Thatcher did it. Please get help.

[Doctor Drivel]

Jerry what is a twill?

[Doctor Drivel]

The greatest legacy the UK ever had was North Sea oil. Instead of using it to promote industry, and advancement, education, etc; set the tone for the future, as Norway did. Thatcher squandered the lot on paying the unemployed on half baked economic theories that clearly were not working...but ...the lady is not for turning. She was a incompetent idiot, with a crowd of yes men around her. Anyone who opposed was flung out.

Blair and Brown have done wonders to get the UK where it is, when you consider the mess they inherited.

The best government I have ever know in the UK, by a mile.