Air Defence System

May 21, 2025 Last reply: 1 year ago 32 Replies
[re Avro Vulcan in war mode…]

It wasn’t only their own nuclear bomb flash that they had to be aware of. They would be flying into an active war zone, with other bombers dropping their weapons on their own targets, missile warheads detonating, nuclear air-defence missiles going off, etc etc. The idea was that they would use the anti flash curtains to protect the rest of the crew, but the pilot had to be aware of what was going on outside and so his curtain would be pulled back far enough for this. However, he was also issued with an eye patch, so that if blinded in his uncovered eye he would still have a working one. If that was blinded in turn, he would hand over to the co-pilot, who also had an eye-patch…so there would have been a total of four eyes available to fly the mission.

Rumour has it that when they had dropped their bomb, and realising that the UK would by this time essentially be a pile of smoking ash, they would fly east until the fuel ran out, at which point the crew would bale out, and individually settle down to a nomadic life with an accommodating Mongolian woman.

One other thing of importance is the EMP from the nuclear explosion frying the electronics. But how much of the Vulcan was transistorised?

After seeing the Vulcan I bought an Air Indicator Unit which was part of a "Green Satin" Doppler radar unit at Birkett's in Lincoln. When I opened it I was amazed to find no transistors at all, just valves. These were of the subminiature type - CV465, 468, 469, and 4501. I assume these would have been much less likely to suffer from an EMP. If the rest of the Vulcan's electronics were mainly valves, then it would probably have had good resistance to an EMP.

The Air Indicator Unit weighed 10kg, so it's no wonder that the Vulcan weighed over 100 tons!

The Vulcan did have some sophisticated electronics presumably because the video:

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(link courtesy of alan_m)

shows that 3 ran interference while the 4th bombed New York.

However, I imagine that could have been valve driven, certainly a lot of the communication receivers of the era were excellent and they used valves

- as well as 300V PSUs with bare cables underneath as I discovered when I picked one up :-(

Green Satin…that took me back; I’m still in touch with what was at the time a young National Serviceman who had the temerity to suggest a modification, which I believe was adopted, to overcome a problem, something to do with overheating IIRC.

The Air Indicator Unit had a standard 200v 400Hz transformer inside to supply the HV.

As probably they might and then will perhaps as stated as the upper part of the globe was obscured by the smoke blocking or reducing the sunlight out in the northern hemisphere! The nuclear winter.

Perhaps they should have headed to Oz if they could get a refuel on the way?.

Just wonder what it would have been like for the servicemen doing that job, leaving their relatives perhaps wife and children to perish in the nuclear horror!..

When the Vulcan was built transistors were in their infancy only Germanium ones being around, but miniature vales were around like Nuvistors and the like they of course were OK with high strength induced pulses such as EMP in fact it was said that Russian bombers were very good in that aspect only using Valves!..

When, roughly, might that have been?

I fancy I might have seen it, very low at the time, taking off or landing, around the Lakenheath area. I was driving at the time, between hedges, so my view was so brief, I wasn't sure what I had actually seen.

and - Several years later, I was actually working in a tiny pumping station, on that same runway, when without any prior warning to me, they took off. The tiny, windowless, brick building shook, I shook, an absolutely incredible noise.

They used to be reasonably commonplace a few years back. Once the Russian knew they existed and where they flew from

The same Barksdale base in Shreveport, Louisiana, that I mentioned had a Vulcan was also taking delivery of an SR-71 when I was leaving the area.

I think there might be one at Duxford.

1977. If you scroll down here
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you'll see the SR-71 at Mildenhall in late May 1977. I would have thought that the Lakenheath Air Show would have been around the same time. Why have the Blackbird make two transatlantic flights to airfields only a few miles apart?

There's no mistaking the profile of an SR-71!

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