Agcm magdalenae

Mar 23, 2008 Last reply: 18 years ago 5 Replies

Anyone grow Angraecum magdalenae? I bought a freshly potted seedling a two years ago from Cal Orchids and it went into a rapid decline. I was there last year and saw their remaining stock was in a worse state than mine, so I know it wasn't just me. LOL!!



The books say its from Madagascar, higher elevations and grows either lithophytically or amongst leaf litter. I have mine in a 3" plastic pot in straight small fir bark. Sitting in front of the swamp cooler. Probably gets 57F at night and 80F days. Bright light. Watered like a cattleya. Probably (realistically) humidity goes from 30% to 90%. The plant had a leaf span of about 3-4 inches when I bought it and its about 2" now (tip to tip).



I was going to give up and replace it, so I looked around for vendors. Norman's says its warm to intermediate. Hoosiers says its intermediate to cool (I believe Hoosiers because they bought Fred Hillerman's stock).



The Bakers on OW give the best culture advice, but I wondered about real world experience, so I come here. Anyone grow 'em? If so, how far off am I?



K Barrett



Aah! Kathy, those africans are the love of my life! I have a hard time growing them. I had to check my data base & lo & behold I have bloomed Angcm. magdalenae only once, got it from Rod Venger back in 98 & it bloomed in June of 2003. It sits in a small pot on the bench to the cooler side of the g/h.

Encyclopedia of Orchids by Alec Pridgeon says:- It grows among rocks in leaf litter in the highlands of Madagascar, usually in light shade. In the wild plants endure a long cool dry season before flowering!!!!

I think I see my problem, seems like it needs a rest? Good luck with yours, Cheers Wendy

Well, it seems from people's experiences that a CHC-type medium and the warmer side of the GH is best. I'm floored that Norman's sells them in sphagnum moss, but there ya go.

I'll move it nearer the cattleya side of the GH and see if that makes any difference.

Thansk to one an all who responded! I had no idea there were so many angraecum aficionados here!

K Barrett

I also bought a Ang sesquipidale from Norman that is also in sphagnum which is ready to be changed. I was thinking that perhaps primeagra might be a better choice. I do know they don't like to have their roots disturbed. Norman has very nice plants and hospital like greenhouses.

Bob

I've been to Norman's and agree about the cleanliness. I am just floored that the real world experience differs so far from teh book-learning experience. I'd never have expected these to like moss. I'd have thought they wouldn't like the moisture so long at the roots or to be repotted as frequntly as moss does (in my hands it gets sour fast)(crappy water) But there ya go. Learn something new every day!

K

K Barrett wrote: I am just floored

I was too, but then Tom Nasser from Carolina Orchids, the Agraecum guru on the east coast, suggested a number of medium options including a promix-based one. He said they actually like water, just good drainage, and the promix type mixes have the advantage that at repotting time you can just spray it off and not really disturb the roots very much. You can even leave them in the same pot if they haven't outgrown it and just wash out the old mix and shake in new.

I killed a lovely large Veitchii a couple years back. It was in a badly broken down cattleya-type mix after about five years or so and I repotted it. Dead within a two months. I didn't really expect it as I had repotted it twice before and it had never shown any negative reaction at all. Go figure.

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