Everyone else seems to think that the neigbhor has no financial responsibility. Maybe they're right. But in case you doubt it, I would find out from someone in your jurisdiction who KNOWS the answer.
But if the cost is all yours, that's the way it is. Buying a house creates lots of expenses beyond the cost of the house. You shouldn't buy a house unless you can probably pay them. You shouldn't have children unless you can almost certainly afford them.
(Nothing is certain, so I don't say "certainly". If a house is too expensive, one can move, but you can't just dump your kids.)
They also make a chain saw, without the motor, that attaches to two ropes. You throw one rope over the limb, pull up the chain, then pull it back and forth until you cut the limb off. I have no idea how long this takes.
If you can't throw the rope up, you can use a slingshot, with a bolt in it. Ham radio shows even sell slingshots with fishing reels attached to make it easier to get the line where you want it, but they are almost 100 dollars. iirc.
So, using the terms "stop whining", "cry-eye", "sheesh" "asswipe", "incessant wailing", "a helpless mess", "anal retentive", "shut your stupid pie hole", etc, in a response is only annoying advice?
Do you think "Mys Terry" AKA "Drag-queen" would speak to someone like that in person, say - at a Home Depot? Of course not.
I didn't speak to "Mys Terry" AKA "Drag-queen" like that and I don't deserve being spoken to like that for asking a legitimate question.
"Mys Terry" AKA "Drag-queen" is just another typical smart-ass on USENET that feels the need to try and belittle a person behind the anonymity of their keyboard. Something they would never do in person, face to face, because they would get a beat-down.
On top of that, her / he-shes, advice was stupid and unsafe, as written below. Hell, a 5 yr old knows not to stand on an unstable ladder with a chainsaw!
And, after speaking to my neighbor on Sunday, she said it is her tree and she will have it taken care of. So for the 3? naysayers in this thread put that in your pipe and smoke it. God forbid if a neighbors
150' tall 5 ft' in diameter oaktree ever breaks in half and blocks your driveway and the insurance company tells you they aren't paying for it because it was an act of god.
Don't forget to oil that chainsaw.
Also, mm, I wasn't going to post to this thread again but since you seemed to want to add fuel to a fire thats been out for 3 days, what the hell. : )
Look at that. Ron is STILL whining like a spoiled brat. I'll bet that when he takes a dump, he carries it around in a plastic baggie so he can show it off to everyone.
Let me ask you a question. If you walked out into your yard one day and saw water spewing up from the ground near the water meter, would you just go ahead and repair it yourself or would you call the water company first to make sure it wasn't their responsibility?
We're way beyond that choice now. No one here objected to your first post. And everyone except me told you that it was your responsibility.
The text I responded to, that you snipped, that made that clear was as follows:
Here you're primarily complaining about the money. When you say "it's not my tree", you don't say it's not your responsibility, because, I would guess, the posters here have convinced you that {maybe)it is. To make sure, I told you what to do, check with someone who KNOWS in your jurisdiction. There is no point at this point in arguing with anyone here. Everyone else things it's your expense, and I don't know but you can't convince me until you do some local research. And if he has to pay, in your locale, it doesn't matter anymore what we think (Although we still gave some good advice about not making enemies, even when requesting money.)
The next guy says it is your responsibility, that the neighbor doesn't ow you,
And still you complain about the money.
I don't know what you're thinking, but what you're saying gives the frim impression that the overwhelming thing is that you don't want to spend the money. That's why I wrote that with a house comes expenses.
You're mixing words used before the post of yours that I replied to with words that came afterwards. Any of the vulgar ones in your list came after the post of yours that I replied to. You started it with "smart-ass"
And you, would you call someone at Home Depot "smart-ass"?
You called him "smart-ass", jackass.
You may have learned words like this when you were a rebellious
12-year old, but if you own a house, you're old enough to cut it out, especially in places like this where almost no one uses such language until the other guy does.
From you! If you ask me, you should be more worried that you forget you don't have a monitor in front of you when you call someone dumb-ass. You may get the beat-down.
You don't read very well either. He didn't say you should use a chainsaw with the ladder. He just said you should get a ladder. You don't know he was talking about a chainsaw. I figured he meant a pruning saw.
And why should it be unstable. People set up their ladders so they are stable. Don't know about you, but I know where to borrow a 15 or
20 foot step ladder. With 4 legs.
If a healthy tree falls in a storm, it is an "act of God", whether God did it or not. Read your policy.
If a sick or old tree that should have been trimmed or cut down, by arborist statndards, falls and damages a neighbor's property, the owner of the tree is liable, and his insurance company has to to pay the injured property.
This has been the law for hundreds of years.
That's what people do. They cut up the tree and give it away for firewood
No one had posted, but I did when I saw your reply. I don't check this list every day, and certainly not so far up as this is now.
Yeah, so what's you point? I took your advice and went to
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and couldn't find any info about who is responsible for having the tree taken care of. This was last Sat. After reading all of the posts I approached my neighbor on Sunday discussed the tree and she agreed to have it pruned at *her* cost. I even offered to pay half and she said, "no, I will take care of it".
If I HAVE to pay for something, then so be it. Are you so readily willing to hand over money for something w/o checking out your options first? Do you price shop? Do you get estimates? Hence, my question about the broken water line.
Please point out to me where I was "arguing" with someone, oh except of course for the drag-queen who STARTED with the personal insults.
And as written I spoke to *her* and *she* is going to have the tree pruned.
Yeah, another smart-ass. Who I ignored, btw.
It's very easy to spend someone else's money, isn't it? Why in the hell does this group exist? So ppl can do things themselves and save MONEY. Are you so well off that you can pay for everything that comes along in your life w/o any problem? If so, then more power to ya. You have NO clue about my financial situation.
Read what I wrote above.
Here we go with the insults, eh? WTF am I whining about? I spoke to my neighbor on Sunday (4-2-06) and the whole thing was settled. I didn't dredge up this post 3 (now 5) days later, YOU did.
If someone said "stop whining" you "cry-eye" and prune the tree, "sheesh". Yep I sure would. And that's probably not all I would say.
Are you a 12 yr old? That's 2 insults from you now, one in your last post. And the he-she STARTED with the insults. Read the thread.
Once again, the drag-queen started with the insults.
Never called the he-she a "dumbass".
Oh, another insult. That's 3. What are you 12? I believe in a direct response to you I stated I have a small oak, which I kept pruned with my chainsaw. Which would lead me to believe to use what I have, a chainsaw.
On a LAWN. 3" thick St Augustine, 3" of top soil below that, and then sand. Don't think a ladder would be to stable on that.
Where did I say anything about damage? I said blocking your driveway, which the insurance will not pay for.
Not in Fla, especially afer all of the hurricanes we have had in the past 2 yrs. Wood / trees were piled in yards and streets 8 month after the 3 canes hit my area in 2004. FEMA at it's best.
And you just had to drudge it up huh. Apparently those "vulgar" words don't seem to bother you too much since YOU keep bringing the thread back up.
I took it as an analogy, and that you were going back to the beginning. I still see it that way.
It varies a lot from state to state how easy it is to use the pages at findlaw, and it also varies how much is codified and how much of that is at the state level, that findlaw covers. But it's the first place I look and the only place I can recommend when I don't know what state the person lives in. If you look below, I quote what I said, and I didn't promise anything. I warned you it might be hard.
That was suggested by a couple posters here too. By golly I was one of them: "Maybe some of the limbs are too low for him too, so approach him nicely about his hiring a trimmer. AIUI, and the People's Court recently said this also, in some states the bill goes to the owner of the tree. So first, before you talk to him, check on what the law is in your state.
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might have it, but it might be easier to ask someone. Who, I don't know."
We're going around in circles again. You want to rehash the whole thing, and in that post, I was only commenting on your apparent unwillingness to spend money, after all the other possibilities had been discussed.
Read over the thread, especially the last 7 days worth, after you've had a couple days away from it. You seem to be arguing plenty, with Mys terry, me and maybe others. I don't have the desire to check now.
Yes, I saw.
We're not, I'm not, spending your money. We gave you loads of advice on how to spend nothing or spend less, and you're supposed to take that advice and use it. And you finally did that, but still, all you do here is carp. Either about us or about the money. My gosh, you are annoying.
You're whining that we're spending your money. Before that you were whining that you didn't want to spend money. We got that at your very first post. After you had gotten loads of good advice Mys Terry got fed up and said stop whining and then you started with a vulgarity. His were worse but you started it. That's how fights escalate, when someone escalates them.
You never told us that things were settled until AFTER I posted. We have nice posters who report back so we know how things turn out. If I hadn't posted, we never would have known.
And I replied to you when I saw your post. I don't look at the dates and I don't post every day, and I certainly don't look at threads this far up on my list of threads every day. Maybe you're reading my replies in reverse thread order so you don't know that iirc I said this already yesterday.
I can't be bothered. Give me the date and time of the first post by someone else who used a vulgarism towards you. The following are not vulgar: Stop whining, cry-eye, incessant wailing, a helpless mess, anal retentive, shut your stupid pie-hole. The one that is left followed your vulgar insult. Most people think it shows some level of ciivilization to be able to insult someone without using vulgar words. They disrespect those who resort to vulgarities (except maybe in a few places, and this would not be one of them).
And very few people know that there is more to sheesh than there is to wow. You can't reasonably call that anything special anymore. In fact it was coined precisely to be unspecial.
What do they say about sticks and stones. Oh yeah, the first guy to use a vulgarity is often the one who gets beaten down.
I read it once. Give me the date and time. I have all the posts in the thread on my computer.
There's no reason you shoudln't have a pruning saw too. They're much cheaper and most people start with that and buy a bigger saw later.
But regardless, you're just concluding he meant the chain saw. He didn't say that.
Well, it would.
Yes, I missed it when you changed to a tree that just lies there. But you did something similar, or the reverse, when you assumed he meant a chain saw when he didnt' say that. Maybe you can win one of these, but you have to yield on the other one.
Are you in Florida? You never said that, afaicr, and I still don't know if you are in Florida, and it doesn't matter. I was just making a casual remark after your strange remark, Don't forget to oil that chain saw. You can have a bonfire for all I care.
I just answer when YOU post. If you stop, I'll surely stop.
You can safely use a stepladder on that surface, or even on plain sand if you know how to operate a sheet of plywood, DUMBASS.
Buy a "Little Giant" and people with average or above intelligence can even set a stepladder completely safely on a slope. You, however, might need some help.
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