The old drop lines were not twisted pair but with the advent of data
circuits going into homes, twisted pair drop lines were developed. I
installed a T1 demarc extension in a retail store Monday and the two
cables we pulled in had two shielded twisted pair and a drain wire that
I had to connect to the jacks on either end. ^_^
Not true, well, not running on poles with ac. I got lots of phone wire
that's not twisted. As long as you got closely spaced pairs, that's good
enough in house. Sure, twisted is ideal. Extension wire is FLAT. Earpiece
Tv twin lead is just parallel wires, and that rejects noise.
On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:07:03 AM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
Look at old photos of the phone lines in a large city where they ran each phone line with a pair of wires, pole to pole. They weren't twisted. Then they added 'Phantom Circuits' to add more lines when there was no room left on the poles to add more cross arms & insulators.
Phone wire is twisted to prevent crosstalk between phone lines in bundled cables like the old standard 25 pair. Not only are they twisted, but each pair is twisted at a different rate.
Drop wire & single line station wire are not twisted, but Cat3 wich is used for multiple home lines is twisted pairs.
On 8/28/2012 5:30 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Unless it needs to be a wire for for some particular reason that
distance would be no problem for a good wireless handset/base station combo.
In the case of a cellphone there are various solutions. I just set one
up for a friend. They had -98dBm in one select spot outside. They now
have -70 dBm in 2/3s of the house.
I never had any trouble finding it. I think I bought the last batch from
Radio Shack, though if you want a long run buy it from an electrical supply
house. If you get twisted pair, you can run both phone and ethernet to the
shop. You may not use a data line now, but it could be handy in the future,
for a security web cam or just running a laptop in the shop to watch a
football game or movie. :)
Why do that? On a farm with straight line, unimpeded line-of-sight you
could probably get a good used DECT cordless phone base for the house and a
handset for the outbuilding. Lots cheaper and less work than burying or
stringing cable. My Uniden TRU9480 works for at least 200' in the city and
that's with scads of other RF devices around. I just bought a replacement
(used) unit with 3 handsets and an answering machine base for $35. I bought
it to replace a handset that went swimming and drowned. (-:
You can always buy a new one from a place that accepts returns just to make
sure the signal will reach.
Ah! What happened to you?
You do realize that in your absence Hey Bub has dreamed up new rebar
attacks and new ways for the potential welfare recipients to sell
their body parts while Trader Hornee continues to fantasize about a
new tax system which leaves him actually receiving money, not to
mention the gun nuts who are all for personal pick-up mounted rocket
launchers to use against Democrats (or black hat wearers, I forget
Come on Bobby, let's fight the good fight!
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I'm on a farm, and have a landline in the house. I want to run a phone
line to my workshop, which is around 270 feet. The phone company wants
a fortune to run it underground. Rather than pay for this, which may
not be real permanent anyhow, I decided to just run my own wire
overhead. I can go from the house to a power pole, then to the peak of
the garage, run it thru the inside of the garage where I can put a phone
jack if desired, and finally from the rear peak of the garage to my
workshop. All of this is short enough runs to go overhead without any
problems, except over the driveway it needs to be high for farm
machinery. The rest dont matter, and by the shed it will only be 8 feet
off the ground.
However, I want to use that "official" thick coated black phone wire
that the phone company uses. That thin indoor phone wire would probably
not last long outdoors especially with winds whipping it around.
I cant find this stuff at any hardware stores or building supply places.
Where can I buy this stuff? (I dont know if the phone company would
sell it to me).....
I'm sure someone will tell me to just get a cellphone. I have one!!!
I cant get decent service out here in this rural area. That's why I
have a landline. I spend more time in my workshop than the house and
get tired of having to walk to the house to check for messages on my
I have run 500 feet of #14 2 conductor low voltage garden lighting wire,
from a marina office to my tugboat, while the marina was being rebuilt for 2
years, with no problems for the phone. Bought the wire from the Borg about
$160.00. The wire was just laid out along the shore. Not the best solution
but it worked.
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