_IF_ one were to take a mind, I doubt your Pom would have a chance 'cuz
he'd get taken from the rear and his neck/back snapped before ever had a
chance to put up a fight.
I think it's highly unlikely they would take it for several reasons,
though, the first being there are undoubtedly far more prevalent and
familiar targets of somewhat lesser size and one wouldn't like the (I'm
guessing) more or less constrained area around a house as an attack site
that would make for difficult flight path out. Also, while I don't know
for sure, I suspect they're watchful enough and cognizant enough to
recognize an obstruction like the leash as being a no-no for a target in
They are pretty impressive, granted -- 'til you put one up besides one
of the golden eagles, anyway... :)
I _HATE_ the da-d kites, though...them bastards dive bomb ya' from the
rear just walking across the yard while nesting (which seems to take all
That's odd. Or is mine odd? Either way I was told and always believed
that a big Owl would scare smaller birds.
Must be plenty of Owl food. Watched a documentary on birds where certain
Pelicans have started to scoop up the young of a smaller ground nesting
aquatic bird. The behavior was blamed on a reduction of the Pelican's
normal food source and had never been witnessed before.
Out in the open along towards dusk time I'm sure they do--but owls are
nocturnal and generally move in daytime only to avoid being themselves
disturbed, not to do damage to anything else. Other than that, as far
as I can tell having watched them for 50 years or so I don't think they
pay any attention to the other at all. I'm quite sure the fake
stationary owls have no benefit after the first change in a location for
a few days at most for most birds, anyway. An active dummy that did
something towards dusk that might look threatening, maybe, but other
than that, I think not, meself based on my observations.
The horned owls roost in the cedars by day and only begin to rustle
about about a half-hour or so before sunset; then just at dusk they'll
depart on the night's adventure. They'll be back on one of their
favorite roosting spots for disposing of the kill at daybreak (top of
the silo is one, a particular power pole is also a popular alternative)
and then not long after the sun is well up they'll be gone only to be
seen during the day if happen to get too close to where they are that
particular day and disturb them.
The barn owls are much more reclusive -- except for the pair currently
nesting in the barn, one rarely sees them at all; they do not come out
until well after it is really dark and they're back in their nesting
sites well before daybreak as well. Only because the loft in the barn
is open does it disturb them when go in there. The upper levels of the
elevator are only accessed on rare occasions when actually have some
need but last year there were at least three different pairs raising
owlets I saw and I don't know how many other pairs might have been back
in areas that are not easily seen w/o effort. Once in a while if come
home late at night will see the outline of one flit by as the headlights
disturb it, but mostly we know they're there by the pellet droppings and
sounds they make during the day.
OTOH, horned owls are territorial and only one pair occupies a general
area at a time. The young leave after about a year to find their own
territories while the barn owls seemingly are pretty convivial and are
limited only by nesting sites and food supplies, apparently.
Interestingly also w/ the horned owls, the male and female mate
permanently, but do not have any association with each other except
starting in the mid-winter roughly courting season and thru nesting.
The brood is not all of the same age, either, they are "stairstepped"
apart by a couple weeks to month--quite a sight to see three or four in
a nest, each a bigger copy of the next younger...
If you walked through the barn with the owl-on-a-pole every time you needed
something out of the barn, would the birds in there eventually get used to it
and ignore it?
If you permentantly mount the thing, won't they get used to it and ignore it
Indeed...many (I think all that showed up in my search for the previous
paper abstract that I had seen some years ago) of the ultrasonic
products also have such soundtracks w/ them so testimonials to the
effectiveness of the ultrasonic devices probably have absolutely nothing
to do w/ the ultrasound component do anything except adding to the
marketing hype... :)
I'm not sure how effective such are, either, long term. And, of course,
there's the nuisance factor of the cure as well as the actual problem in
Starlings, for example, are terribly persistent about roosting--scare
them up at eventide and they'll simply circle and return unless are
extremely persistent and often even then a large number will eventually
just ignore noise, movement, etc., once dark sets in.
You have a handle on the problem that we face. We have been on the look out
for nests in the tree and there are none but if I find any in the future
they will be gone in a hurry.
All I can do it seems is to hope that they move on to some other
Thanks to all for some useful information.
On Mon, 24 May 2010 11:04:44 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:
We lived next to a farmer who grew popcorn and sweet corn. He had a
couple propane cannons that would fire every couple minutes that ran off
a gas grill tank. Kept the Starlings out of the fields. We used to shoot
them out of the air with a .22.
Turn on a loud shop vac. Once they get used to that, use the shop vac
noise to mask the sound of you plunking the birds (starlings?) with a
nice pellet rifle. No one will hear a thing over the vac.
The full frequency range of what each person can hear varies slightly.
In Europe, I believe, they sell these things to specifically drive off
young people from loitering and causing a nuicance. It's based on the
general fact that adults lose most of the hearing sensetivity that
they had in their youth, so it's supposed to irritate kids while having
no effect on adults.
I'm glad they don't do that here.
Either I'm just lucky, or I've been successful in my effors to protect
my hearing over the years by wearing earplugs religiously any time I use noisey
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