Toilet Help PART II

If you purchased an aftermarket flapper such as Fluidmaster, some of them do not work well. In some cases you have to get the OEM flapper. Thats what happened in my case. I had an Eljer toilet that would not flush correctly with a Fluidmaster flapper. So I ordered a genuine Eljer flapper online, and it works fine now.

My experience is: there are two types of flappers. You need the type that has an air pocket, so that it will stay afloat during flushing. Go to a plumber store and ask.

I also had the flapper with the bucket and a new flapper seat, and it did not work well. Part of the problem was there was not enough room for the flapper to swing up with the bucket on it. What kind of toilet are we talking about?

Fluidmaster has a flapper with a bucket on the back. The bucket has holes in it for draining. When the toilet is flushed the weight of the water in the bucket holds the flapper open until the water drains out of the holes. The length of time this takes can be made longer by closing some of the holes with supplied pegs. This flapper is part of an assembly which includes a new flapper seat (which sticks on top of the old one), so it also eliminates any flapper leaks caused by a poor seal between the flapper and the seat.

Since the flapper is part of an assembly including the seat, the who assembly can be turned so that the bucket does not hit the overflow pipe.

On some toilets, yes, you can do that. But some toilets like my Eljer Cantebury, the flapper drain is not flat, it is on an angle. So rotating the assembly would somewhat affect how long the flapper would stay open, usually resulting in weak flushes.