Texas 85 mph - Don't work well with fog

Have any statistics to back that up?

Harry K

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Harry K
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Per snipped-for-privacy@home.com:

I think turning off the stationary vehicle's lights would significantly decrease the chances of a collision.

I once heard an Atlantic City Expressway police rep characterize a car parked on the shoulder at night with lights on as a "Drunk Magnet".

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(PeteCresswell)

Per snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca:

Problems I've had were on long gradual ascents.

At some point in the increasing grade, the load on the drive tires exceeds their traction and they start to spin.

Not a big deal once you figure out what's going on, but the first time the vehicle starts slewing side-to-side for no apparent reason, there's a "WTF?" moment.

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Before calling "nonsense" perhaps you should review some of the student driver course matieal. That _is_ what was taught. It has now been replaced by "3 seconds" and recommenteded is 4. At least one can quickly check the spacing and doesn't need to estimate "what is a car lenght and hwo many are between me and next guy".

Kinda pointless though as hardly anyone allows more than about 1 - 1 .

5 sec. That is the cause of all the multi car rear-enders. Those spaces should be increased greatly in foggy conditions.

Harry K

This does not need to take speed into

are you?

So somehow 1 car length per 10 mph is ignoring the speed factor? In what universe

The 3 second (or 4) takes that into account.

No shit Dick Tracy. Got any more words of wisdom that are already known by everybody?

Brilliant!! Minimum is posted say 45, fog conditions make that too fast but one is not allowed to slow down!! Wow!!

Agree, it also has zippo to do with that 85 mph speed limit. The accident didn't happen on that stretch of highway - not even close to it.

Holy Shit!! Do you care to rethink that asinine bit?? Ask any cop about it and prepare to be arrest ed for idiocy. That is for regular traffic, not for bad conditions. Actually you can get a ticket for 'too fast for conditions even at 25 mph.

I haven't seen a minimuim posted on any US or interstate highway out in this region.

Did see a few back when back East.

Harry K

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Harry K

Loads of it.

Harry K

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Harry K

Smart drivers, if the conditions permit, will be off, way off, on the berms and not wait for an exit.

Harry K

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Harry K

Yes!!

Harry K

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Harry K

In driver ed, we learned to put the four way flashers on.

Love the "drunk magnet" descriptor.

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I think turning off the stationary vehicle's lights would significantly decrease the chances of a collision.

I once heard an Atlantic City Expressway police rep characterize a car parked on the shoulder at night with lights on as a "Drunk Magnet".

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Stormin Mormon

I've had twice when I'd been crawling up hill, in snow and ice. Someone comes flying past me, and I say "must be safe to go faster". I push the gas a little harder, and spin out.

Drive exceeds traction. Oops.

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Problems I've had were on long gradual ascents.

At some point in the increasing grade, the load on the drive tires exceeds their traction and they start to spin.

Not a big deal once you figure out what's going on, but the first time the vehicle starts slewing side-to-side for no apparent reason, there's a "WTF?" moment.

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Stormin Mormon

Unfortunately, a lot of folks put the flashers on when they drop below the normal minimum speed. In some states the law says you have to have flashers on below 40mph on the highways. Getting as far off the road as possible and turning off the lights is the best option really. And don't stay in the vehicle either, get over the guardrail or barrier and further away.

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Pete C.

OK for fog; not OK for blizzard.

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Wes Groleau

Per Stormin Mormon:

The guy from the ACX specifically identified flashers as a problem.

Having read this thread, I'm with Pete C: Don't just get as far off the road as possible and turn the lights off; but exit the vehicle and get even further away. My choice in getting further away if I had a choice would be upstream from my vehicle as well as further laterally.

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(PeteCresswell)

There is virtually never any fog on the highway designated for 85mph speed limit. Truth be told, there is seldom any moisture on that stretch of road.

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HeyBub

And they are going to tow off every car that pulls over in a bad bank of fog?? I don't think so! They pull the trucks off the road when visibility gets bad.

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clare

You are mostly headed in the right direction - but following a big truck too closely, and not being able to see what is ahead of the truck can give you a LOT of hurt if something happens that causes the trucker to try too hard to stop, and he ends up jack-knifed or otherwize crosswize across the road.

I don't think you drive in really adverse conditions very often. Minimum speed is ALSO for specific conditions.

Or your 4 way signals on.

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clare

Around here if they don't "get a concept" pretty quickly they are not driving very long - we get enough slick, icy, snowy roads and fog in the average winter to take a fair number off the road within the first few weeks of winter.

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clare

Or like the time i hit black ice on the road along the Conestoga River with the 69 dart. I was just poking along and I thought it felt like I had a slack tire. I got out and promptly sat on my ass on the pavement. I couldn't stand on it - yet I could drive on it - and that was without studs.

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clare

Pretty hard to get past the Jersey Barriers or the Armco on a lot of highways.

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clare

And a few moments later you find the "hot dog" backwards in the ditch.

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clare

That works with fog - but what do you do in a BLIZZARD. At below zero F.

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clare

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