The water level in my swamp cooler is consistantly too high and sometimes
overflows. The valve has a thick wire to the float. I bend the float down
until the water only starts flowing at the proper level. It won't stay set
correctly. After a while - hours or days - the level is too high again. The
float is not leaking. All I can think of is the float is somehow bending
the wirw? Seems impossible - it is hard to bend.
Yes, I know, change the valve assembly. However, I'm still in cooling
season here in AZ and hate to try to change it. These things have a way of
being a lot more trouble than expected. I don't want to have to work for
hours in the hot sun. What could possibly go wrong? Leave it to me; I'll
In some thirty years I never had this problem before!
What about the wire, does it look the same?
Maybe you're bending it, and when you're not around, someone is
bending it back.
We used to do that with someone's waistband on his pants. First we
made them tighter and tighter, then later looser and looser. Or maybe
that was people on tv.
I don't know the people around him, or why they do things. If
someone can murder 12 people in a morning, someone else can bend a
wire over and over. Maybe it's a joke, like adjusting the waistband
of someone's pants. One shouldn't exclude possibilities just
because they seem unlikely.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:10:08 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
He has a problem that needs solving, a mystery. He needs to consider
When I wake up in the morning, I don't have a problem that needs
solving and certainly not a mystery.
And the odds that a friend is goofing on him are many orders of
magnitude higher than the odds of being hit by an asteroid.
2) Another possibility is that the OP bends it, but it slowly springs
back to where it was. All by itself. The original rod was designed
not to do this, but maybe it's not the right rod for some reason.
Either way, the angle or something shoudl be measured.
3) I'd just keep bending the rod more and more, until that stops
working or the weather is cooler.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:08:57 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
A) This says nothing about the kind of friends I have. I don't even
have a swamp cooler.
B) What it does say is how unlikely it is to be hit by an asteroid.
And I'll add, how little one can do about it. If he were to figure
out that his friend was goofing on him, he'd tell him he figured it
out, everyone would laugh, and the friend would stop.
C) If the friend is just goofing on him, it's not nasty.
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:57:50 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
How easily some people insult others. I'm not lying. When I have a
mystery problem, until I know the reason for it, I try to consider
every possible reason for it. Of course there is no way to know if
one has considered every possibiltiy
a) How do you know that?
b) I never said I did. I said he needs to consider every
possibility, and when I have a mystery problem, I try to consider
every possibility. That doesn't mean I'll think of every one, but
more importantly, even finding the right reason for the problem does
not mean someone will solve the problem. I want to take 3 years off
and travel around the world. And I don't want to stay in group
hostels on this trip. The problem is I don't have the money. Knowing
the problem doesn't solve the problem.
No. It was a hypothetical, and I didn't mention myself or my friends.
It's the OP who has a problem with the swamp cooler.
I never said that, and I think you must be a sloppy reader to keep
saying I said things I haven't said. I said that "he needs to
consider every possibility." That doesn't mean he *or I* have thought
of every possible reason his swamp cooler is causing problems.
It depends on what it leaks on. It might have an overflow that
routes overflows to some harmless location. Or a friend who is
playing with him might not realize that it's actually overflowing
enough to cause damage. The OP didn't say it was causing damage.
Even if the leak turns out to be nasty, that's not enough to say his
friend is nasty. It depends on the friend's intention.
You said it yourself, you need to change teh valve assembly. Most
likely the valve rubber washer that seals the seat is hard, cracked
and leaking. This should be a very easy job on a cooler. Worst
possible scenario is you can't unscrew the corroded mounting for the
valve and have to rip out part of the cooler sheet metal to get it
off. Just relocate teh valve to an new spot, drill a new hole and
mount the new valve. But I'd be very surprised if it came to that. If
you are worried about it get some PB Blaster or Liquid Wrench and soak
the threads for a couple days before you try and take it apart. These
valves are usually made of brass or plastic and while the build up of
crud on them may look terrible the brass or plastic itself is OK under
the crap and you should be able to get it apart without damaging the
cooler. I have also fixed these types of valves by leaving the valve
body along and just buying a similar new valve and just swapping out
the parts that move. I've done it that way a couple times for the one
in my swimming pool because the valve body was sort of concreted into
place by the idiots who built the pool.
If the float is ok and the float rod is unlikely to be bending, then the
next logical suspect is the valve the float arm connects to. Perhaps the
connection to the arm is slipping, the valve seat is deteriorating or
something else is happening there including perhaps the mounting of the
valve itself that is allowing the shift to occur.
Interesting theory. Not sure how to check. Appears to be all ok; I'll
Well, it will soon be time to turn off the cooler for the year. I'll have
all winter to replace the valve and I can take a good look at the old one
just out of curiosity.
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