The only hysteria evident is yours.
The Toyotas, when they "run away" seem to do it while the driver is
just cruising along, sometimes already at highway speeds. Has nothing
to do with a foot hitting the gas pedal rather than the brake pedal.
In fact, part of the problem is that at 70-80 MPH with both feet
standing on the brakes, you can't stop the vehicle.
This has been widely reported.
The problem with Audis would happen when the car was being moved from
a standing position because of the size and position of the pedals
making it easy to push the wrong one without realizing it.
Also widely reported.
On Mar 1, 3:21 pm, email@example.com wrote:
re: "In fact, part of the problem is that at 70-80 MPH with both feet
standing on the brakes, you can't stop the vehicle."
I'm admittingy tossing out "partial information" here, since I can't
cite the source.
The other I heard a gentleman who was being interviewed on the radio -
who I believe was a spokesman from some Auto Safety organization - who
"In any passenger vehicle, even the weakest set of brakes is more
powerful than the strongest engine. There is no reason that a driver
should not be able to stop a Toyota when it exhibits the run-away
problem. The key is to not panic, apply the brakes, shift into neutral
and pull to the side of the road."
Sounds easy enough. ;-)
that quote doesn't imply the brakes will stop the car without being in
neutral. the brakes won't stop the car if, in fact, it is in gear and
accelerating (or at least once the breaks start slipping due to
overheating), it won't.
That has been my understanding in the past, but I'm not so sure about some
of the newer cars from all that I've read. I'll have to try it on my
wife's car since it won't work on mine. When I push both the gas and brake
at the same time, the engine goes to idle no matter the speed. When stopped,
it it like being in neutral if I hold the brake down.
Nope, those days are gone. Shame since it is a Sonata Limited with the 249
hp V-6 It will beat a lot of so called muscle cars and has a top speed of
137 mph. I have no problem getting to 70 on the on-ramp.
At about 1:21 Brian Ross says "Brakes don't work". At 2:50 he
expands on that a bit. The brakes did not work.
And yet all these folks with runaway cars say [the survivors] they
stood on the brakes to no avail.
Put the car in neutral- then you should be able to stop quickly- then
turn it off. ?Easy to write-- probably takes some control to pull
off in real life.
People confuse the pedals all the time. I doubt they had time to look
down and verify the pedals while they were panicing.
Happens several times every week in a country the size of the U.S.
Only difference now is the hysteria over it. Just like 10 years ago
with the audis. The runaway audi's were all people stoping on the
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:07:41 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
He's pretty goofy about the Audi situation as well. It was determined
to be a design flaw in the Audi's that had to be corrected. The pedals
in the Audi were positioned offset far to the left in relation to the
steering wheel, and were all at the same height. The gas pedal was
about where you would find the brake pedal on most cars. This was
further complicated by the design of the underside of the dashboard,
which made it so that you could never see the pedals while sitting up
in the seat, to learn where they were visually.
In other words, a design defect.
Ah, but I have been called stupid for sayign the deaths were driver's
fault. Of course I wasn't careful enough to distinguish between teh
cause of the runaway (Toyota) and the cause of death (driver). Didn't
make it simple enough for them.
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