How do I get my home's smoke alarm to not send a signal to the
monitoring company right away?
Even though the system is grounded through a 6' copper rod, there was a
lightning strike that set off the smoke alarm which called the
A week later, I was broiling something and I left the oven on in case I
needed to put the food in for more time, and though I didn't smell
anything, the smoke alarm went off and it started dialing the monitoring
company within about 2 minutes. I called them and cancelled, but now
I'm afraid to cook anything except by boiling.
What key words should I look for to buy something new?
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
I would contact the alarm company for guidance. Maybe they can do something at their end.
A 6' ground rod is not to code. 8' is the minimum required length and burial depth. Even though you have a ground rod, if the connections to the ground rod and at the service are not good, the rod will not be as effective as it can be.
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:44:29 -0700 (PDT), John G
It's a long story but for good reasons I hate to bother them.
Maybe it was 8 feet. It's been a while. But lightning** is not what
I'm worried about. It's my cooking. In the past I've set the smoke
alarm off maybe 10 times in the last 15 years, so I expect to do it
again. However in the past, I had no monitoring, just the smoke alarm,
so if it buzzed, I'd go upstairs and wave a magazine undeneath it until
it stopped. And that was the end of it for a year or two.
What do other people do?
Wade, it's a 110 volt smoke alarm. I forget what that says about it.
**That was interesting, actually. I was on the phone when the lightning
struck, not my house but nearby. The siren went off and I started
downstairs to stop it, but it stopped on its own maybe 60 or 90 seconds
later for some reason. I went back to the phone call and in a couple
minutes heard touch tones. I didn't know what they were but my friend
on the other end of the line did. After about 5 attempts at one or two
minute intervals to call with touch tone, it switched to pulse, about 5
times at one or two minute intervals. Eventually it stopped and I
thought I was done.
Went to sleep early. Next day go downstairs and find the alarm control
panel squealing. Disarmed the alarm (even though I had not armed it)
and I thought I was done. Five or 10 minutes later the police show up.
It seems that disarming the alarm must have restarted its attempt to
call the monitoring station, and when they called me to verify, I'd left
the cordless phone upstairs so I didn't hear it. Police said they'd
gotten loads of alarm calls because of the lighting. Then a couple days
later a guy from my alarm company called me. So everyone was involved.
The second time, I cancelled so only the monitoring compnay was
involved, not the police or the alarm company, but I expect somehow the
next time, everyone will be involved ag again.
Mine is not monitored. It has a button to push and it stops it for
about 10 minutes or so. Perhaps you can change the device?
I set it off at least twice a month if I forget to turn on the vent over
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:48:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
I tried to find something like this, but I think I need a keyword that
means "stop for 10 minutes" (until the smoke goes away anyhow.)
I did hunt through some alarm documents and I found that there already
is a 30-second delay.
Unless I can find a better smoke alarm, I need about a 5 minute delay,
to give myself time to go upstairs and use a magazine to blow away the
smoke. It's very hard to understand the alarm manual, and I haven't
even found the right pdf file or the right setting, so it will probably
take 2 hours at least.
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 04 Jul 2018 13:55:51 -0400, micky
One pdf file says "Operates the same as the standard Fire zone, except
the alarm memory and transmission by the communicator is
delayed by 30 seconds. If the alarm is acknowledged by pressing any key
within 30 seconds, the bells will silence and
the transmission will be aborted. If the alarm has been acknowledged,
and the smoke detector has not been
restored to normal, the bell output will activate after 90 seconds. The
user then has another 30 second delay before
the bell output latches and communications is activated. A code is then
required to silence the bell output."
No hint that the delay time can be changed. ;-(
Looking further, again no hint. What a bummer.
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:01:18 -0600, rbowman
One should have both. The 110 volt ones work differently from the
battery operated ones, and one is better at smouldering fires and the
other is better at the other kind.
But even with an electrical fire, it usually takes longer to cut the
power to the house than it takes for the smoke alarm to go off. Just
like even when your car goes into the lake and under the water, you can
still probalby open the power windows if you act quickly.
No, the power source has nothing to do with which kind of fire a
detector is more sensitive to.
That's determined by Whether it uses photoelectric or ionization
technology. The former is better detecting fast flame, the latter
That's why I originally asked you which yours is. I didn't see a reply
though- which is kinda' what I expected given your typical off-point
Nah, that wasn't an insult. If I wanted to insult you, believe me- you
would have known it.
My plonk file erroneously let you through and it was constructive
criticism/feedback attempting to improve the quality and focus of posts
in this newsgroup.
Really dude, you can't be serious with half the scribble you launch
clicking on the SEND button!
“I succeeded by saying what everyone else is thinking.”
- Joan Rivers, RIP
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:15:55 -0700, Bob F
That's' a good idea, but that means it's not connected to the house
alarm and won't call the monitoring who calls the fire department if
there's a fire. I have one like that too except no silence button. I
put it in the fridge until it stops beeping. ;-)
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