I was in a supermarket the other day and two checkout lanes had signs
with a line representation of a wheelchair. I assume the lanes were
wide enough for a wheel chair.
But two other lanes had signs with a representation of a blind man
with a cane. One was my lane so I asked the cashier if he had special
skills for dealing with the blind. He said, Huh? I pointed to the
sign and he said he didn't know what it meant.
Do you? Do you know any word associated with the idea?
Reminds me of something.
My city publishes the phone numbers of various city services, it seems
there is a department for everything.
I am not a busy body and have never called to report a problem if
someone in my neighborhood is doing something wrong...but one day I made
A young couple had an entire pickup truck loaded with a bunch of junk
that looked like it had been hauled out of a river.
They pulled up to a park near my house and right in broad daylight...and
worse still...laughing about it...unloaded the entire truck right on the
I did not confront them, but jotted down their plate number.
When I tried to report it to the "illegal dumping" helpline they had
zero idea how to handle it and I spent a lot of time on the phone being
transferred from one department to the next until I finally gave up.
Turned out to be a good thing because I found out later the city had a
river cleanup day, and those two kids were volunteers who simply put the
trash at a designated pick up site. The next day a truck came and hauled
LOL! Probably another unintended consequence of the ADA (Americans with
Local courthouse has electronic monitors displaying which courtroom is
hearing which cases. Very similar to the electronic displays showing
flights at the airport.
Mounted in portrait mode in the wall of the hallway with the bottom edge
of the frame about 6' off the floor there are small signs in Braille
telling the "viewer" which courtroom the monitor pertains to.
Absolutely brilliant. Not!
Nearly as handy as the Braille signage on the DRIVE UP ATM's
On 04/27/2016 06:43 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
I was a member of an organization that had a fully wheel chair compliant
bathroom. I asked why?
The president told me it was a requirement made by the building
inspector in order to get an occupancy permit.
Ok, fair enough.
The fact that the bathroom was on the 2nd floor and no way for a
wheelchair to get up there...did not seem to matter.
I have always wondered why they dont make wheelchairs that have a hole
in the seat, so a handicapped person can park their wheelchair over a
toilet and take a shit without leaving their chair. . . . . . .
On 04/27/2016 12:18 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
It would still be kind of a good idea to pull down their pants first.
BTW:I saw a wheelchair on-line the other day that instead of wheels had
hard rubber spokes and could go up stairs
Not at all like the tank-tread type I saw when I Googled just now
On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
Blind people are allowed to sit in the back seat of vehicles.
Blind people take taxis.
Blind people deserve as much privacy regarding their financial transactions
as anyone does.
Blind people don't want to give their ATM card and pin number to the driver.
Granted, this doesn't address the issue of touchscreen ATM's. However, instructions on how to use a touchscreen ATM are available from banking
institutions, just for the asking. In addition, headphone jacks are
available on most ATM's. The audio instructions can walk the blind user
through the required steps so that they can (privately) transact their
business - using the Braille keypad.
On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:21:30 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
That may be true, but that is not the reason they have Braille on the drive-up
The main reason is Section 4.34 of the ADA Accessibility Guidelines for
Buildings and Facilities
4.34 Automated Teller Machines.
4.34.5 Equipment for Persons with Vision Impairments. Instructions and all
information for use shall be made accessible to and independently usable by
persons with vision impairments.
I'm not sure that that is the case, Cindy. Most drive-up ATM's I'm
aware of are on bank premises. Those ATM's generally are set up to
accept deposits as well, aren't they? That is going to require an
entirely different set up.
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 1:17:22 AM UTC-4, Micky wrote:
Yes. I thought you might have been talking about ATMs in
convenience stores and the like. I don't think I've ever
seen a standalone, drive-up ATM, but I don't really pay
that much attention.
Hence my deferral to your knowledge, since I know I'm
oblivious to "foreign" ATMs. I'd have to be in a real
emergency (and somehow also need cash rather than a
credit card) to stick my ATM card in anything but my
own bank's machine.
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:38:55 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
This is a total and complete guess:
The profit made on an "independent" ATM isn't high enough to justify
the expense of a drive-up ATM. When I think of the infrastructure involved
as well as the maintenance, I just don't see it covered by the fees
Sit a machine inside a convenience store, plug it into their power and
toss them $0.50 (?) a transaction (or lease/own it in your own store)
and I can see it eventually turning a profit.
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:05:48 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
In California they probably have them. They have drive up mortuaries,
where you can see the departed through the window.
Had a case just this week when an ATM in a car wash was destroyed by a
fire. They seemed to be using real numbers when they said their
commission for someone geting money was $2, and half went to the owner
of the machine and half went to the carwash owner. That they agreed
on. They were fighting about how much of the fire insurance money the
ATM owner would get. (The insurance had paid the car wash owner.) He
got about 1600.
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