No big difference in using it. There is very little difference between
natural gas and propane as far as using it goes. Natural gas is cheaper
The deciding factor may be the initial cost. While the NG company may
charge you a fee for hookup, the propane will be quite a hefty initial
cost. The tank you will probably have to buy. The propane company will
do the install and hook everything up to your gas line. Depending upon
the size of your tank, that will be between 1200 and 1800 bucks
including the first fill of propane.
With either one, you are going to have to install gas lines to your
fixtures. I did my own and only had to pay for materials, so I can't
tell you what it would be for you. I put the stove and the water heater
on the propane. Left the AC/Heat as electric. Materials were about
150.00, not including stove and water heater.
I HATE electric stoves, so the choice was easy for me. YMMV
In addition, there are no inspections here in the country, so I did not
have to deal with that. Again, YMMV.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:07:07 GMT, Robert Allison wrote:
I don't know about the initial hookup, but it costs me $60 a year to rent a
500 gallon propane tank. It was already here when I bought the trailer.
As far a grilling goes, I have been able to use the NG grill on much colder
days than I could ever with propane. OTOH, the conversion from propane to
NG is fairly inexpensive. I think it cost about $30 for the grill
conversion kit (Great Outdoors grill, no longer being manufactured). For a
stove it is simply replacing the jets.
This is true and if you can get the propane company to rent you the
tank, that is the way to go. For reasons that I don't like, they would
only sell one to me. If I had put my HVAC on gas, they would have
rented me a tank, but I didn't, so they wouldn't. Something about ALL
the fixtures must be on propane for them to rent. That may be different
in other areas.
When I first converted the stove, I just ran off a 60 gallon tank, which
I carried down to the propane place to refill. When I installed the
water heater, I didn't want to have to carry that down every 3 weeks or
so, so I rented the tank. 250 gallon.
I only have my stove on Propane (if you cook electric sucks - you cannot
control the temp with any type of fine degree. Though if you bake electric
ovens are the best). They wanted to start "renting" me the tanks for a
couple hudred dollars a year because I didn't use "enough" propane - that on
top of charging what amounts to twice the $ per gallon that any old place
will fill a 20lb tank for. They call it a premium becuase I only use so
much. That's when I told them to come get their tanks and I installed 2 40
lbers and a regulater bought at an RV store - got the idea when I saw all
these RV's driving around with dual tanks and figured "Hell" that's all I
need.. LOL! Now, not only do I pay less for propane I own the tanks. When
I run out on the grill I can "rob" a tank from my house (or vice versa).
The only "inconveniance" is a couple times a year I have to go 5 minutes
down the road to buy propane.
I've cooked on electric, natural gas and, most recently, propane. I
currently live in an area where natural gas won't be available for at
least another ten years, so propane is what I use now. In my case,
propane is almost twice as costly as electric per BTU, but it does
allow me to prepare hot meals in the event of an extended power
outage; that's important to me. And given a choice, I prefer natural
gas or, alternatively, propane over electric for all the reasons
you've no doubt heard before.
I had a natural gas BBQ when I lived in Toronto and it was great
because you never worried about running out of propane (inevitably at
the worst possible time) and messing with tanks or transporting the
equivalent of a Ford Pinto in your trunk. My current BBQ is connected
to the main propane tank by way of a quick disconnect, so these same
Just make sure the appliances you purchase can be easily converted to
natural gas when that happy day comes (not a problem in most cases,
but some BBQs cannot) and that the lines are properly sized for
natural gas -- depending upon the BTU load, a larger diameter line may
LP vs. Nat gas, effectively no difference, and cheap and easy to switch
a stove between them.
As for waiting, if it's just the stove you want, by all means get it,
set it for propane, and feed it from an ordinary purchased 100# LP tank.
If you aren't running the furnace, hot water, gas dryer, etc. your LP
use will be very low.
I have a dual fuel stove with 5 gas burners that runs from an ordinary
20# LP tank outside. I'm single, but I do like to cook so the stove gets
plenty of use and I have to swap the 20# tank every 8+ months. Unless
you have a huge family, it's highly unlikely you'd have to fill a 100#
tank more than once a year, you can fill it anywhere, and you aren't
paying rental on a huge LP tank you don't need.
If / when Nat. gas becomes available, you can hookup if you decide the
economics and the monthly service charge warrant it. If you still only
have a gas stove, and have no need to run anything else gas, I expect
the economics will show that just filling the LP tank once a year and
not paying any service charges is a better deal.
Doubtful, since he would then have to purchase a new stove when NG
If he's just running a stove, LP will absolutely be cheaper than NG
since NG comes with a service charge every month, and for a stove only,
all he'll have to do is take a 100# LP tank to be filled once a year at
most and not pay any tank rental charges for a huge LP tank or service
charges for NG service.
Fill a portable tank every few weeks???????? What planet are you on? Or
are you cooking for an entire town from a 20# LP tank? A 20# LP tank
runs my stove and I swap it out every 8-10 months.
- Electric appliances are generally cheaper than gas ones
- Some of the cost of said electric appliance could be recovered by selling it,
if & when get gets NG
- The cost of hooking (connection to the street) up to the NG service is not
going to be cheap
- Paying a NG billing charge every month, especially if the only thing hooked up
is a range is going to cost a packet
- There's no guarantee NG will become available
Economically, he's better off staying with an electric range. Personal
preference for cooking with gas trumps this, of course.
Somewhat, but once you get above the basic models the difference
Almost never happens, at least in the US. People throw out perfectly
good appliances during a remodel... not that that's a good thing :(
Nope, it will be free, the usual tactic of the gas utility to lock
people into their monthly service charges. When they run lines into a
neighborhood, they have crews there anyway and they want to get as many
hookups as possible to start paying for that line construction.
Exactly. If he had gas heat, hot water, clothes dryer, shop heat, etc.
it would generally be worthwhile. I don't think he's in a big heating
If he likes to cook on gas, a 100# owned LP tank (or even a 40#
probably) would do just fine and be economical.
A 20# LP tank runs my 5 burner dual fuel range for 8-10 months. I'm
single, but I enjoy cooking and cook a lot, often with multiple burners
active. A 100# tank would surely last the OP a year, a 40# at least 6
i have picked up neighbors tanks they buy a new grill and put the old
grill at the curb. i piler the tanks, some were full. most had old
style valves so i take the tank to home depot and exchange the empty
for a full one with current valve, then refill it which is cheaper
when its empty again.
i have 6 or 7 tanks in my shed, we grill a lot, i never run out.
about once a year i get them all filled............
Steve, visit a local RV/mobile home business.. They can give you
ideas. many places as a child had duel propane tanks. LP tanks usage
was rotated when a tank was empty...turn one valve on and the other
off. The local company filled the empty tank, so you always had one
tank full of LP.
Before that is was splitting wood to cook (another stove)..
NG is the best for my cooking, BUT you may pay dearly to get it into
the house. Let the gas company bring the lines to you. Over time it
cost you less.
No appreciable difference between NG and LP for cooking.
Not if they are just bringing the lines into the neighborhood when
they're desperate to get people hooked up and paying monthly service
At no charge.
Not if all you run on gas is the stove. LP with an owned tank or two
will be much cheaper than paying a service charge to a gas company every
month. $20-$40 per year of LP will be a lot cheaper than paying like $8
per month just to have gas available, plus the cost of the gas you
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