Problem with clothes dryer not getting hot enough: How do you test a sensor?

Thanks for that last paragraph Bobby, that was what I was looking for. I wi ll try it.

Curiously, next to the sensor which is a long pointed device that extends i nto the vent shaft, there IS another flat round electrical device which loo ks like some kind of secondary sensor and which also has burned wires (or w ire covers!) going to it. But that isnt a commonly replaceable part. I wi ll have to check the spade terminals on that now.

How come no one believes that with this unit, even though there doesn't app ear to be any sensor to tell when clothes are dry, a small amount of water feeds into the unit while drying to help prevent wrinkling etc? If that wa ter doesn't evap with the heat and get pumped away, you would expect clothe s to come out wetter than they went in? To me it seems obvious that it is the sensor or the element? But that is without applying any lateral thinki ng, which is why I came here. (even if I have to accept that there will be a certain amount of trolling coming from certain elements like VinnyB & GPS Man)

More likely is the pump in this condenser unit: Not a whole lot evaps like in a normal vented dryer, everything is pumped out. I wonder if there is a chance that the pump isn't working or isn't working properly. Unfortunately I cant easily disconnect the drain so see what is being pumped out during the dry cycle.

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Amanda Ripanykhazova
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into the vent shaft, there IS another flat round electrical device which l ooks like some kind of secondary sensor and which also has burned wires (or wire covers!) going to it.  But that isnt a commonly replaceable part.  I will have to check the spade terminals on that now.

ppear to be any sensor to tell when clothes are dry,  a small amount of w ater feeds into the unit while drying to help prevent wrinkling etc?

The reason people are having a hard time believing it is because most of them have never seen a dryer that uses water. This is indeed a feature of some modern high-end dryers, where steam is used for that. The idea is as you say to take wrinkles out. Now, I would think that would only happen if you select a special steam cycle. But some googling shows that apparently these dryers may introduce steam at some point in the drying cycle for wet clothes too.

Yes, with this type of dryer if the water doesn't turn to steam because the heat doesn't work, then I could see that happening.

To me it seems obvious  that it is the sensor or the element? But that is without applying any lateral thinking, which is why I came here. (even if I have to accept that there will be a certain amount of trolling coming from certain elements like VinnyB & GPSMan)

It could be a sensor, the element, the wiring, a control board, relay, etc.... The way I fix things like that is to get a circuit diagram. There is usually one of those in the unit itself, typically pasted on the back or maybe on the back of one of the main access panels, or sometimes just a folded up sheet stuck inside behind a panel. With that and a test meter I trace out the circuit to try to determine what is not working and why.

e in a normal vented dryer, everything is pumped out. I wonder if there is a chance that the pump isn't working or isn't working properly. Unfortunate ly I cant easily disconnect the drain so see what is being pumped out durin g the dry cycle.

I have no idea how that part of the dryer works, never seen one.

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trader4

Look, I don't know how a condenser unit works but am reasonably sure it doe sn't work strictly by evaporation. The evap'ing going on is just a precurso r to pumping the evaporated water out. There is no (lint) trap to clean out .

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Similarly, there is no fuse to check IN this machine.

And there are only two drying cycles, one a heated one and the other (I nev er figured out what it is for and have never used it) a non-heated one whic h just tumbles. I assume this is for a minuscule amount of exceptionally de licate pieces. But I will go back and try it to see if there is ANY heatin g going on at all in that cycle as your suggestion is a good one in theory

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

Of course we can't leave out the mouthpiece of the P.L.L.C.F. Troll, Booby Green. Write us a novella Booby, the codswallop you spew will obfuscate something. ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

Actually I do kinda need a wiring diagram or at least some interpretation.

There is a mystery grey wire which comes out of the wiring loom and heads g enerally towards the rear terminal of that secondary sensor. As far as I c an see, it goes into the loom, going towards the rear of the unit. A grey w ire does emerge from the rear of the loom and connects to one terminal of t he dryer fan.

The sensor itself has clean terminals and the spade connectors are clean an d show no signs of arcing. But I wonder whether that grey wire does in fac t go to that rear terminal along with the wire which is already connected t o it? The wires coming off the spades do look a bit burned and frayed so I suppose the gray wire could come off it.

THe manufacturer's agent was clueless as to what this wire is and whether i t IS supposed to go somewhere. There are two other mystery wires, both or ange. One comes from the front panel and ends in a spade terminal which isn t connected to anything. There is also another orange wire (emerging from the loom) which also appears clipped off and doesnt look as if it was ever connected to anything

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

I will try it.

ds into the vent shaft, there IS another flat round electrical device which looks like some kind of secondary sensor and which also has burned wires ( or wire covers!) going to it.  But that isnt a commonly replaceable part.  I will have to check the spade terminals on that now.

appear to be any sensor to tell when clothes are dry,  a small amount of water feeds into the unit while drying to help prevent wrinkling etc?

ike in a normal vented dryer, everything is pumped out. I wonder if there i s a chance that the pump isn't working or isn't working properly. Unfortuna tely I cant easily disconnect the drain so see what is being pumped out dur ing the dry cycle.

The OP is not a troll.... he just has a machine that most of us are unfamilair with.

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As mentioned & discussed in a number of followup posts, this is a combo machine; it washes & dries in the same tub! I had the misfortune for having to used a machine of this type nearly

10 years ago in New Zealand.

It took over 3 HOURS to do a pair of jeans, some socks & rugby jersey and they still came out damp. IME these type of machine suck...even when they're working. I can imagine they're some sort of "green thinking" run amok.

But they probably do save a lot of energy... washing & drying take so long, one decides to do fewer loads. :(

Take a look at the manual... cycle times are shown on page 11. Read the Troubleshooting section...pages 16 & 17

There is a note on page 11 about load size during drying... the dry times range from 2 to 2.5 hours! On pages 16 & 17 is gives "tips" to improve drying performance. There is also a note that total cycle times could be as long as 4 HOURS!

It also reveals the tidbit that drying load capacity is 1/2 of the washing load capacity! WTF?

Question.. I often see washer capacity noted in 'lbs' . I this manual it talks about 11 lbs, I see US washer rated at 20 lbs. Are the these the weight of the dry clothes? I've also seen washers rated by cubic feet. What's the deal?

Clearly the OP's combo machine is "Suzie Homemaker" sized, cabinet is only 23-1/2" wide.

All in all....imo, this type of machine is a total POS. I seriously doubt that they save any energy in the long run, since they expose clothes to excessively long dry cycles and the attendant abrasive wear.

I think the problem with this thread.... a number of people think it's trolling & a number of people are applying "US style dryer" diagnosis to it. When in reality, it's a "real" machine & its performance sucks.

Link to explanation of condensing dryer... I didn't vet this info for

100% accuracy but it seems like a dehumidifier for clothes.

cheers Bob

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DD_BobK

I think you are probably right but I have used this machine reasonably succ essfully for a decade or so in various incarnations and it has always more or less worked, even with the limitations you mention. What I need now isnt to read/ignore all the trolls here, but to use your & Optonline's diagnost ics on the parts and/or try to figure out whether that mystery grey wire fl oating around which may connect the secondary sensor to the fan is the prob lem.

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

generally towards the rear terminal of that secondary sensor.  As far as I can see, it goes into the loom, going towards the rear of the unit. A gr ey wire does emerge from the rear of the loom and connects to one terminal of the dryer fan.

and show no signs of arcing.  But I wonder whether that grey wire does in fact go to that rear terminal along with the wire which is already connect ed to it?  The wires coming off the spades do look  a bit burned and fr ayed so I suppose the gray wire could come off it.

it IS supposed to go somewhere.   There are two other mystery wires, bot h orange. One comes from the front panel and ends in a spade terminal which isnt connected to anything.  There is also another orange wire (emerging from the loom) which also appears clipped off and doesnt look as if it was ever connected to anything

I don't know how anyone here can help you with any of that. We don't even know what kind of "sensor" it is. Can you get the sensor out easily? Does it have a part # on it? If so, you could try googling for the sensor part # and maybe you'll find some discussion somewhere about what kind of sensor it is, how it works, how to test it, etc.

As I said before, my approach with this kind of thing is to try to figure out the operational principles of the machine, ie what has to happen for voltage to go to whatever heats it and then figure out what is preventing it. Otherwise you're just going to start replacing parts without knowing if it's really bad or not. That approach works for a lot of repairmen that have an inventory of parts to swap. But for us, it can get expensive.

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trader4

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:47:22 -0400, "Robert Green" wrote in Re Re: Problem with clothes dryer not getting hot enough: How do you test a sensor?:

No, but you did it for us; so no need to bother. Thanks.

It still looks like a troll.

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VinnyB

(lint) trap to clean out.

no fuse to check IN this machine.

The sensor, which you think is bad is called an *Oompah* valve. Ask the dealer about it, it's a common problem with that appliance.

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krw

No, no, no, Dufas, you're *already* confused. YOU are the one that confessed to being a troll for entertainment purposes, an "admission against interest" that will certainly come to haunt you. I am a troll HUNTER. You'd better review your confession, troll, because you're wrong again, right out of the starting gate. Wrong-Way Dufas strikes again!

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I've not started an OT or political post in AHR for at least 5 years. But I do respond to lying slimeball trolls who try, like terrorists, to disrupt the normal flow of things to get their political message (usually lies) across. Unlike you, who feeds nearly every troll that visits AHR, I usually only respond to trolls if they are members of the group abusing their fellow posters. That certainly sounds like a certain "entertainment troll" I know. Perhaps the real meaning of your acronym P.L.L.C.F. is about you:

Puerile Loser Likes Creating Flames

You're infantile/puerile because you like to aggravate people and disrupt adult conversations. You can't exercise any self control and repeatedly blame others for your own errors. You're a loser that lost your job to a less-qualified person (so you say - more likely you were dismissed for the same sort of anti-social behavior you engage in here). Finally, you confessed to being a troll that likes to make so much trouble that he hopes it gives people aneurysms. In other words, a malicious and hateful little person who gets his kicks stirring up trouble and wishing ill on people.

That's charming. You try to hide behind "I'm just joking BS" and then you hope your trolling causes a potential fatal injury to someone. Prepare to see a very ugly portrait of you painted with the many hateful thoughts you've expressed like that from the archive. You ask us to believe what a nice guy you are while expressing a hope your infantile behavior kills someone. That's almost 100% pure hypocrisy and it's *very* malicious, despite your protestations to the contrary.

Just like Chris did when he called HeyBub a Nazi, you stepped hard on your wang and crossed the line with that hateful remark. Because you're poorly socialized I know I won't get any sort of apology for that death wish from you. In fact I am counting on it.

Booby? That's the *best* you've got? What are you, eight years old? You can't even do a good job of making up a name. I can't imagine being such a failure in life that I had to get my jollies trolling the newsgroups with your (patented) "Constant Commiecrat Crap." If you need entertainment, go bowling and not trolling.

Let's see. You're a senior citizen. You're a self-confessed 'entertainment' troll. You live in Alabama. Hmmm.

I dub thee: Trolio Ol'bama Man. The Ol' guy from 'Bama who abuses and trolls his fellow newsgroupers for his own "entertainment."

So Trolio, let's get to the "entertaining" part as I demonstrate to your fellow newsgroupers how you're trying to play them. People don't like being played. If you had some sort of functioning social radar, you might be detecting that people are getting tired of your race-baiting antics.

A number of people have asked you not to act like a baby terrorist with your OT rants. Your response was to tell us what a great guy you are because you work through the pain. What self-serving hogwash. You don't even understand how old and tired (like you?) your "Fig Pucker" responses are when you've read them a dozen times. You're like a Pavlovian dog. Someone writes "Test" in the header and you can count on old Trolio Ol'bama/Dufas to reply. In fact we can count on you to respond to any troll or spammer that posts here to clog up the newgroup even more than it already is.

You hate the "race card" but boy do you know how to play the "pity me" card. Now *that's* low self-esteem. That swill you gave Dan to excuse your trolling was pathetic. "I twy so hard to contwol myself!" But you don't do a very good job because your Commiecrat flame-bait just oozes out of you like pus from an infected wound no matter how hard you say you "twy."

I will, Trolio, because I know you'll read every word at least twice and your bad behavior and wrong-headed views of the world give me plenty of subject matter. Besides, you're a narcissist and so self-centered you couldn't *possibly* skip over anything anyone writes about you, good or bad. You misbehave deliberately to get attention, and now you're getting it. But I don't think it's quite the attention you wanted. This is going to be "entertaining" Dufas because you're already in waaaay over you head. I also know from watching your behavior in the past that you'll do yourself in because of your lack of self-control.

What was it that Kurt said about picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrels? I used to write for a living and type 110wpm so I can deal with you and your BFF troll buddies with one hand behind my back. You're just not careful enough or good enough, Trolio. More importantly you've left a goldmine of ammunition in the form of your endless whines and confessions in the Google archive.

Playing a few rounds of "Dufas, This Is Your Life" will prove to be very entertaining because you've said some pretty self-damaging things, like your confession that you're a troll. Maybe there is *one* thing you finally got right! You ARE a troll. A common, garden variety, living under a rock with toads, troll. And you ADMITTED IT, dummy! What a maroon! No one cares

*why* you act like an idiot and post flame-bait except you. Another socialization failure.

The only way out now is a retraction. Just like men's room footsie-playing gay Republican Congressman Larry Craig tried to pull. Do you have a wide-stance defense for your trolling like he did?

Oooh, Trolio knows some BIG words. I hope you like sucking down "codswallop" in the form of your own ill-considered words used against you. Make sure you're up to this contest because I, unlike you, would not wish to make you mad enough to pop a blood vessel. I do hope to make you mad enough to get you to stop trolling AHR with your Commiecrat crap. If that doesn't occur, at least I can expose you for the lying, race-baiting, disruptive, self-centered attention hound that you are and make sure that every post you make is replied to with the URL to your confession and a warning that you're a troll.

Sadly the war would be very asymmetrical because you're as much of a failure as a sock puppet and a troll as you seem to have been in other aspects of your life. Most smart people I know didn't have to work like a dog when they were old or sick. Some how, oddly enough, you seem to be proud that you weren't smart enough to plan for a future where you might be disabled or old. That's why you can't win a battle of wits. You just don't know when you're making a total fool of yourself (that would be perpetually, or so it seems).

There are some very smart and sharp conservatives here that must really squirm when they read the flame-bait stuff you post. They have to realize that you're not very bright and that your ill-informed posts only damage the true conservative cause. They know that trolls like you actually undermine their message when it's clear they don't even understand who runs the Library of Congress (hint: NOT Obama).

Those smart conservatives mostly seem to have been smart enough to have planned for their future. So what happened to you? Oh, I remember. The Bad Affirmative Action Man came and just *ruined* your life and you couldn't recover no matter how hard you tried. You've been whining and complaining about it ever since. You're *always* crying the blues, Trolio, about how hard life is and how you have to work like a dog even though you're so sick. I'd be embarrased to make such a pitiful and naked plea for attention and special consideration - I thought you said you hated that? You've got your own Affirmative Action program going right here in AHR! For you! How's that for irony?

Just remember, Ol'bama Man, poor life planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency for the rest of us or give you the right to troll the group to entertain yourself. Dan E. said it much more succinctly:

No one on the internet caused your problems and putting up with trolls is not fun for the rest of us.

It seems you really want to tango so let's make sure you're medically up to the war you're determined to start, Trolio. I don't want to have to deal with you coming to the newsgroup and whining and crying that all the things I said about you made you fall off a ladder or get pneumonia. You've already played the crybaby "Wah, waahh!!! I'm sick, pity me" card to excuse your poor behavior (trolling), so it's just natural I'd want to doublecheck your health before I spanked your virtual bare ass like the juvenile, self-confessed troll that you are:

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So, sit down on the examining table, wittle boy, take this doll and point to where the Affirmative Action Bad Man hurt you.

Now let's have some fun, Mr. Trolio Ol'bama!

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Robert Green

Oh my God Booby Green, I knew you would write another novel. You P.L.L.C.F. types are the most fun of all with your always wrong assertions and your bizarre assumptions. The most entertaining thing about you and those of your ilk is the fact that you really think you're important and that you matter. Good luck with that Booby Troll. I think it wonderful that you believe in free speech only as long as it's your own or what you believe in or approve of. I especially was touched by your threat to contact the news service I'm using and complain so you could get me banned. You can always killfile me if you hate and despise my posts but of course I would never killfile anyone as goofy as you over what you may believe or write because it's too entertaining. Keep trying Booby G., perhaps you may actually insult me if you spew enough of your insipid vitriol. ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

Don't you find it interesting how he compared you to a terrorist? Isn't that a lib loon classic? I mean, let's assume he's right and you're a troll. Compare an internet troll to a terrorist? It just shows how out of touch he is. Did a troll kill 3200 Americans on 911? Then he tops it off by bitching about someone else calling someone a Nazi...... Go figure.

Then for good measure he throws in this:

"The only way out now is a retraction. Just like men's room footsie- playing gay Republican Congressman Larry Craig tried to pull. Do you have a wide-stance defense for your trolling like he did? "

If a Republican ever made such a remark, it would be immediately condemed by Bobby and all the libs as a bigotted hate crime and a smear against gays. But when he does it, it's cool.....

And of course if a conservative every wrote a whole novel like that, why it would be a shining example of their intolerance and rage.

Boy, you sure succeeded in rattling his cage. Apparently it doesn't take much. Maybe he's off his medicine. I have pictures of him running around the house, concealed carry weapon out and waving around in his hand, kicking the cat, smashing vases, screaming I hate you Dufas! You're a terrorist!

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trader4

this does appear to be a type of dryer that is "new" to many of us

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yes it is essentially a de-humidifer for clothes.

so if it is a condensing dryer, and the so called outer loop is a water loop, then what the OP said starts to make sense. The machine won't run without a water supply because it uses the water flow to cool the condenser ?

So if the machine has a refrigeration cycle similar to a DE-humidifer, and the refrigeration section is not working, there is a whole list of things that could possibly be wrong...

OP, when the machine was working in the past, did it make a humming sound like an air conditioner?

Does it still make that sound now?

Mark

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Mark

ok, most of these are NOT refrigeration based... but this paragraph is relevant to the Op

With most current standalone condenser dryers, it is necessary to periodically clean the condenser unit - perhaps once a month or so, one needs to slide out the condenser module and wash off any accumulated lint. Thus condensers require a bit more "work" than vented dryers - although this may entail less actual effort than the recommended annual ductwork cleaning for vented dryers (which is very important for both performance and fire safety reasons!).

Mark

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Mark

I'll never understand those who suffer from HISI, Humor Irony Sarcasm Impairment. You tease them and they take it as a personal attack and believe you must hate them and wish death and destruction upon them. I've seen it in both Liberals and Conservatives so it's not confined to a single archetype but does seem to afflict the P.L.L.C.F. types more often. Bobby must actually believe I want bad things to happen to him and it's the most bizarre thing I've come across in this newsgroup but there are all kinds of people. When Bobby calls me or anyone else a troll, I have to laugh at the absurdity of the pot calling the kettle black. Heck, I just got back from a hundred mile round trip to fix a DSL problem for a commercial customer and I'm hurting like hell but I must take off again to fix a phone system at an auto parts store. Darn it, it's been chilly around here the last several days and my hair hurts. I haven't bit anyone's head off today so perhaps I'll find a few cockroaches to stomp while I giggle maniacally. o_O

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

Good idea but there is no material trap of any type to clean out, whether c ondenser or not. Yes it does hum a bit but I hadn't thought that this was relevant to why it doesn't dry well. It also habitually grinds a bit which sounds wrong but there again, it doesn't seem relevant. Again, I know that the sensor is commonly replaced but am reluctant to waste money by putting a replacement in if the problem is with the element. I suspect the only thi ng which is going to help me is finding out where that grey wire goes on th is unit.

As the service/importer wouldn't tell me, I suppose I may have to ask the m anufacturer in Italy who I am sure isn't set up to respond to this type of question. Then hope that if I connect it correctly, the heater will sudden ly spring to life.

If anyone knows where there may be a wiring diagram for this unit under any of the plethora of names which are used, I would appreciate it as I am rea sonably sure there isn't much wrong with the sensor or the element!

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Amanda Ripanykhazova

condenser or not.  Yes it does hum a bit but I hadn't thought that this was relevant to why it doesn't dry well. It also habitually grinds a bit wh ich sounds wrong but there again, it doesn't seem relevant. Again, I know t hat the sensor is commonly replaced but am reluctant to waste money by putt ing a replacement in if the problem is with the element. I suspect the only thing which is going to help me is finding out where that grey wire goes o n this unit.

manufacturer in Italy who I am sure isn't set up to respond to this type o f question.  Then hope that if I connect it correctly, the heater will su ddenly spring to life.

ny of the plethora of names which are used, I would appreciate it as I am r easonably sure there isn't much wrong with the sensor or the element!- Hide quoted text -

As I suggested previously, have you tried looking for a wiring diagram on the back of the unit? Or behind the back cover panel? I've even seen them as folded up sheets stuck inside, behind one of the main access panels that a service guy would take off.

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trader4

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:09:07 AM UTC-4, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:

ese are NOT refrigeration based... > > but this paragraph is relevant to th e Op > > > > With most current standalone condenser dryers, it is necessary to > > periodically clean the condenser unit - perhaps once a month or so, > > one needs to slide out the condenser module and wash off any > > accum ulated lint. Thus condensers require a bit more "work" than > > vented drye rs - although this may entail less actual effort than the > > recommended a nnual ductwork cleaning for vented dryers (which is very > > important for both performance and fire safety reasons!). > > > > Mark Good idea but ther e is no material trap of any type to clean out, whether condenser or not. Y es it does hum a bit but I hadn't thought that this was relevant to why it doesn't dry well. It also habitually grinds a bit which sounds wrong but th ere again, it doesn't seem relevant. Again, I know that the sensor is commo nly replaced but am reluctant to waste money by putting a replacement in if the problem is with the element. I suspect the only thing which is going t o help me is finding out where that grey wire goes on this unit. As the ser vice/importer wouldn't tell me, I suppose I may have to ask the manufacture r in Italy who I am sure isn't set up to respond to this type of question. Then hope that if I connect it correctly, the heater will suddenly spring t o life. If anyone knows where there may be a wiring diagram for this unit u nder any of the plethora of names which are used, I would appreciate it as I am reasonably sure there isn't much wrong with the sensor or the element!

It's common for manufacturers to tape a folded up wiring diagrahm and schem atic inside appliances. This keeps the service guys from having to haul aro und hundreds of them. You have a combination washer, condensing dryer. It d oes not add water to the clothes during the drying cycle but may use water to cool the condensing unit. They are not usually very good at drying but m ake up for it some by having a really high spin cycle at the end of the was h phase. And if you do not have a outside vent there's not much you can do

I don't know your specific model but generally there are several temp senso rs on the drying cycle as well as possibly a moisture sensor. The temp sens ors may include ones to prevent it from going over a certain temp while run ning as well as a safety sensor that has a higher temp. Often the safety on e is a one-shot, once it has been tripped it must be replaced. That's on th e theory that some other failure caused it to be tripped and the appliance needs other work as well as a new safety temp sensor.

Finding the schematic is going to be very helpful. Some google searches mig ht help you as many manufacturers also make theoir schematics available onl ine. These are also not super complicated so it is possible to trace the he ating circuit out by hand. And a volt ohm meter would help a lot with this and with trouble shooting in general. As a general rule the temp sensors wi ll be closed when cool if they are wired in series with the heating element . If they are connected to a main control board they may be open when cool and closed when hot. You can check these with a hair dryer. You can also ch eck for continuity of the heating element. If you can get enough covers off to get to the heating element but still be able to run the unit you can al so check for voltage at the heating element while it is running.

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jamesgang

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:06:14 AM UTC-4, jamesgang wrote:

: > On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:25:48 PM UTC-4, Mark wrote: > ok, most of these are NOT refrigeration based... > > but this paragraph is relevant to the Op > > > > With most current standalone condenser dryers, it is necessa ry to > > periodically clean the condenser unit - perhaps once a month or s o, > > one needs to slide out the condenser module and wash off any > > acc umulated lint. Thus condensers require a bit more "work" than > > vented dr yers - although this may entail less actual effort than the > > recommended annual ductwork cleaning for vented dryers (which is very > > important fo r both performance and fire safety reasons!). > > > > Mark Good idea but th ere is no material trap of any type to clean out, whether condenser or not. Yes it does hum a bit but I hadn't thought that this was relevant to why i t doesn't dry well. It also habitually grinds a bit which sounds wrong but there again, it doesn't seem relevant. Again, I know that the sensor is com monly replaced but am reluctant to waste money by putting a replacement in if the problem is with the element. I suspect the only thing which is going to help me is finding out where that grey wire goes on this unit. As the s ervice/importer wouldn't tell me, I suppose I may have to ask the manufactu rer in Italy who I am sure isn't set up to respond to this type of question . Then hope that if I connect it correctly, the heater will suddenly spring to life. If anyone knows where there may be a wiring diagram for this unit under any of the plethora of names which are used, I would appreciate it a s I am reasonably sure there isn't much wrong with the sensor or the elemen t!

ematic inside appliances. This keeps the service guys from having to haul a round hundreds of them. You have a combination washer, condensing dryer. It does not add water to the clothes during the drying cycle but may use wate r to cool the condensing unit. They are not usually very good at drying but make up for it some by having a really high spin cycle at the end of the w ash phase. And if you do not have a outside vent there's not much you can d o

sors on the drying cycle as well as possibly a moisture sensor. The temp se nsors may include ones to prevent it from going over a certain temp while r unning as well as a safety sensor that has a higher temp. Often the safety one is a one-shot, once it has been tripped it must be replaced. That's on the theory that some other failure caused it to be tripped and the applianc e needs other work as well as a new safety temp sensor.

ight help you as many manufacturers also make theoir schematics available o nline. These are also not super complicated so it is possible to trace the heating circuit out by hand. And a volt ohm meter would help a lot with thi s and with trouble shooting in general. As a general rule the temp sensors will be closed when cool if they are wired in series with the heating eleme nt. If they are connected to a main control board they may be open when coo l and closed when hot. You can check these with a hair dryer. You can also check for continuity of the heating element. If you can get enough covers o ff to get to the heating element but still be able to run the unit you can also check for voltage at the heating element while it is running.

No, I have had this thing apart numerous times and there is no wiring diagr am in it.

But the sensor idea is a good one as the one next to the replaceable one do es look a bit burned (again, the plastic cover, not the spades themselves)

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