Paint, Is there a big difference? FAQ

And according to Consumer Reports, Behr paint (Home Depot) is rated the best.

with paint you get what you pay for go for the best you don't save money by buying cheap paint 

??? According to Consumer Reports the very best exterior paint is California (flat, 90%), followed by Glidden (semi-gloss, 87%). Behr (Premium Plus, 59%) was number 13. When I used the "best" Behr exterior, which had a "lifetime guarantee", it was peeling in less than

Hilary

Okay, "California" paint is not sold in my state (Texas). If I bought some of their flagship 2010 Residential Paint base, could one of their competitors (HD, Sherwin-Williams, etc.), do the color match?

You can pay $30/gal for worthless paint too. So just because you pay a lot doesn't mean you're getting good quality.

And, there are some excellent quality paints available for a lot less than the name brands that have high mark-ups and profit margins.

Lowes has a new premium exterior paint and they often have a $5 rebate per gallon to bring it down to $25. I don't know how long it will last because it is new. I have not had good experience with Behr interior paint. It was OK but nothing great and drippy. That was to years ago so maybe they have changed it. I tried Lowes American Traditions interior paint and thought it was excellent in comparison. I have heard a lot of good things about Sherwin Williams premium exterior paint. IMHO exterior paint is the last place to skimp unless you are flipping a house and could care less how long it looks good. I shiver when I see those house flipping shows at what the new owner is going to experience a few years down the line.

Steve   

I'll bet there was moisture coming through the painted shed. Was it new, green wood, maybe?

You're not asking the right question. Don't ask which brand name, ask which paint within each brand. Each brand makes good paint and cheap paint. (Count Glidden as ICI Dulux, and I'm not all that familiar with Behr). Anyone who recommends Benjamin Moore or any other brand without being more specific simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

The problem with Consumer Reports is they didn't test all the best paints.

Yes. Good paint = one coat. Bad Cheap paint = three coats.

same formula for years without pealing.

The problem is finding the cheap good paint. thats where you turn to consumer reports.

I've not had much luck over the year with cheap paint. Save a few buck, put on more coats and/or have to re-paint in less time. I've been using Pittsburgh latex and I get tired of the color before the paint starts to peel. Each paint line has different levels of quality also. Get the middle or top grade. Talk to the owner of a good established paint store. Most wont carry crap because they are personally seeing the people if things go wrong, not like the big box store.

How much do you think it actually costs to manufacture a gallon of paint?

Not all sub-$15 is junk. WalMart carries (or used to) McCloskey Multi-Use for less than $15/gal which was highly rated in the July 06 Consumer Reports. I used it four years ago to paint a horizontal surface exposed to sun, rain, ice, and snow. It's holding up well.

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Hope it was allowed to dry if it was the type that needed it.

"Ether Jones" wrote in news:1158627326.113206.10690 @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

I've use Lowes Valspar Severe Weather paint on a couple of places with irregulsr t111 siding. One was a vary dark color going over. Excellent one coaat coverage and bonding. I wouldn't use "better" paint if it were on sale for less for that application. It ain't broke so I an't fixin' it.

$75 for 5 gal. You can get good paint at a low price if you hit one right. But $15 Walmart paint is $15 Walmart paint.

Well...according to the supplier it was "ready to paint", but we put it up, caulked, waited three weeks, then lightly sanded and powerwashed it. Then we used Bin (or Kilz, or whatever Behr recommended) on the knots, Behr latex exterior primer, and 2 coats of Behr exterior "Premium Plus". We also had one wall of a carport painted at the same time as the shed (right next to each other), and it already had a perfectly serviceable coat of paint. Since the shed was to be a different color, we powerwashed the carport wall as well, and painted it. It had EXACTLY the same amount of peeling as the new siding in the same amount of time.

Hilary

Why, just because?

With their massive purchasing power WalMart has huge clout. No other company is in a better position to sell quality paint inexpensively.

That doesn't mean everything at WalMart is a quality product - far from it. But conversely, just because something is sold at WalMart doesn't mean it is an inferior product.

Check out the July 06 issue of Consumer Reports. McCloskey Multi-Use is highly rated. McCloskey's "Multi-Use" line is (or was) marketed exclusively by WalMart. It sells for about $13/gal.

How many days did you wait for the wood to dry after power-washing before you primed and painted?