I didn't say that. As a matter of fact, you CAN'T put PAM in paint. Oil and
water do not mix. I actually said to spray (a small amount of) PAM in the
container. By floating atop the paint, it acts as a barrier to the oxygen
remaining in the can. Ever heard the expression: "Oil on troubled waters"?
I wear glasses. Cling wrap does work. Go find another assumption.
From the Better Homes and Gardens website:
"You can clean water-based paint from brushes and paint pads in 10 seconds:
" The fabric softener is a surfactant -- it actually makes the water wetter,
so it can more easily dissolve paint."
Could be... I'm not a professional painter. But I do try to study on a
project before rushing willy-nilly into it. I suggest that you, too, could
benefit from research on an idea before expressing an opinion (Opinion "deeply held belief not based on facts") instead of making more assumptions.
... and now how do you propose to get rid of that layer of PAM next time you
want to use the
Depends on your definition of "does work", I suppose, and how clearly you think
necessary to see in order to do a good job of painting.
Maybe you just have low standards.
How do they propose removing the fabric softener from the brush afterwards?
Latex paint rinses out of brushes just fine with nothing more than warm water,
behind that might interfere with the next paint job.
Nor even a competent amateur, apparently. One thing is clear: you haven't done
much of it.
I can detect virtually no difference with or without the cling-wrap. Have
you tried it? Or are you making just making another another argumentative
Let's see; who to believer - Better Homes & Gardens or an un-vetted
newsgroup poster who hasn't tried any of the suggestions?
Let me think...
Duh! With warm water. Have you ever cleaned a paint brush?
No it doesn't, or at least not as easily as with fabric softner, and I'm
speaking as one who has actually cleaned paint brushes used with latex
paint. Further, after using fabric softener, the brushes certainly smell
And what is YOUR clue? Did come to you in a dream? Did you learn of it thru
a note in the bottom of a Cracker-Jack box? Perhaps a message explaining the
concept that you studied with the help of your Hopalong Cassidy Secret
The PAM layer is like FOUR MOLECULES thick! (I exaggerate for emphasis).
Look, dude, either comment from experience or cite a contrary source. I, for
one, am not interested in your heartfelt belief based on neither authority
nor lack of knowledge, especially when your ignorance and acidity combine to
impugn my suggestions and motives.
Try this line from YOUR post: "Oil and water don't mix".
Speaking of ignorance and acidity...
It's become quite clear that:
(a) you copy-pasted a list of tips you found online somewhere, rather than
and knowledge you had gained through actual experience, in order to appear that
know more about the topic than you actually do (not the first time you've done
like this, BTW)
(b) you're embarrassed to have been caught at it.
Not the first time you've done that, either.
Oh, like you *have* been "comment[ing] from experience"? Riiiiiight.
I haven't impugned your motives at all, until this post.
## No, everything I posted was originally composed by me. This another one
of your assumption. Had I merely copy/pasted some exposition from an
internet source, it should be trivial for you to find it. Merely take the
statement - or a part of it - surround it with double-quotes, and hand it to
## Please tell us what you find.
## "Caught at it?" So far, all we have is your claim. A claim with no proof.
## Absolutely. Plus repeating information from knowledgeable sources.
## I stand corrected - you have not criticized my motives. But, whatever, I
still challenge you to cite a source that is contrary to the information I
## That you have not done so, nor claimed experience or experimentation,
indicates you are simply being a contrarian.
So, you were wrong.
Yes, I got the tips from a book - and I made use of every one of them I
listed here. You, however, have offered no contrary evidence, either from
your own experience or by referral to others. Methinks you are just being
disagreeable for disagreeable's sake.
I could be wrong. You can settle this hash by CLAIMING you've found an
error, via experience, in one or more of the tips OR by citing an apparent
expert who disagrees with any of the tips I posted.
In sum, I STILL recommend to the novice painter, such as the OP, that they
consult a book on painting before they begin.
Two posts back, you said you composed them yourself.
About where you got them from, yes. About the fact that it's just something you
somewhere, not something you know from actual experience, no, I was completely
And you lied when you said you composed them yourself.
The only part that you got right was "oil and water don't mix". Read that a few
times until you
figure out why putting vegetable oil in a water-based paint might not be the
best idea ever.
Run along now.
Your comments are interesting. Most of the hints I offered - from one of the
painting-tips books - came with a "why" attached. Your disagreements came
with no basis, just contrariness.
If you can back up your disagreements, I'd be pleased to hear your side of
the various arguments. If, however, you are limited to screaming: "Liar!
Liar!," spare us.
color. I measured (three walls have those tall vaulted ceilings) -- but as best
I can tell -
You'll need about 4 gallons depending on just how you apply it. Given
that the color is close, one coat should it if you don't miss any
There are better places to buy paint though. Sometimes the local
store will be cheaper and have better quality brands, service, advice.
I need to paint my great room - hall - and dinette. Its all painted the
same color. I measured (three walls have those tall vaulted ceilings) --
but as best I can tell - the area measures 1441 sq.ft. I have thrown away
the sales slips for the paint we bought - years ago - and I have no idea how
many gallons. It will be flat paint, as close to the original color as
possible. Hopefully, one coat will cover it. How many gallons do I need?
My late husband always bought the paint - well, I bought it, but he told me
how many gallons to buy. Any help would be appreciated. Will probably shop
at Home Depot or Lowes. Thanks.
About 4-5 gallons depending how thick you roll it..If I'm going for the one
coat and gone I put it on pretty good..2 coats I go thinner..I would go for
the 5 gallon bucket to insure uniformity but I lose money if I have to re-do
it at my expense because of some nimrod at the paint counter got one a
little off...As a general rule it is Flat for the ceiling , satin or
eggshell for the walls and semi-gloss for trim...But hey it's your
place..Get some light weight One Time Spackle and touch up the nail holes
and dings and hit the touch ups with the brush as you are cutting in...Crank
up the radio and have at it..On the high walls start at the top and work you
way down after the ceiling is done..HTH...
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