On Tue, 27 May 2014 08:11:37 -0400, "David Martel"
In my experience if it has the same code, the mix matches even
several years later - but if, as was intimated, they changed the BASE
used, the formula will also change, and the colour match will be a
real crapshoot. I'd try having the paint store ad the missing parts
of toner to match the original formula and see what happens.
Way back when the Univacs ruled the world, my CompSci professor addressed
this very question in another form. He asked us "should a carpenter have to
know electric motor theory and design to be able to use a power drill?" Of
course not. Yet we often expect computer users to need to know a lot more
about the technology of computers than they have to in order to get a simple
It's why I always smile a bit when Linux is proposed as an alternative to
Windows. Some people say "Windows is like driving with an automatic
transmission and Linux is like driving a stickshift" but the reality is that
Linux is like driving a Formula One race car where nearly all operation are
carried out through the controls on the steering wheel. It's a very, very
different paradigm. The auto/stick analogy is perhaps better suited to
comparing Macs to PCs where PC's are the stickshift.
Why should we expect a person with a question he wants answered to care a
whit about newsreaders, Usenet, threads, etc? All they really want is to
have their question answered and sites like Google and DIY banter have
evolved to allow them to do that without having to learn how to acquire,
configure and use a newsreader.
Yet it seems to be a source of great consternation for those who instead of
welcoming a new poster who comes to us through Homeowner's Hub or such other
portals, bash them for not "praying properly" to the great Usenet god.
Ironically some of the bashers seem to be quite religious types. It makes
it easy to understand the phrase "For religion is the greatest inspirer of
hatred the world has ever seen, and it shows no sign of losing that
character in its old age. (Mencken - 1928) Change "religion" to "dogmatic
thought" and the results are pretty much identical.
Lots of people post questions from their work enviroment and may not even be
able to use a standard newsreader because those ports are blocked. My chief
complaint with GG is that it seems to add blank lines for no particular
reason and responding to a GG post often involves tedious reformatting to
eliminate all the crap. I wonder if it's a setting issue, like line length,
because some GG posts are rife with double, triple and quad spacing whereas
some appear to come out normally.
other issues, I can't tell if they even allow changing line length and
word-wrap functions. I just tried looking for an answer in Google's help
for fun, I copied the error message showing all the ways Google tries to
"feel you up:"
settings, and then refresh this page.
Holy smokes. We've come a long, long way from the idea of a simple
hypertext information retrieval system that the WWW started out as, and I
be the number one vector for malicious activity.
First you should have looked harder for the original can of paint and
painted a card to be matched. But, why get upset, if you don't like
the paint, take it back for a refund! Doesn't have to be anything
wrong or a mistake; the only reason you need is that you don't like
All the rest that they told you sounds like nonsense as is your idea
that they would save money by using less colorant.
Take the gallon back for a refund. Have them match the old paint if
that is what you want. It's not a problem.
Paint technology as both a consumer item and trade item is besotted with
ignorance, because that's what appeals to most people, such as calling
colors "French Blue" and the like. It's nothing but a proportion of
various chemical pigments. They should specify and sell it that way. But
no woman is going to buy a lamp black, thalo blue, and magenta blend when
she can have "French Blue".
Most people have no idea what "latex" means in paint. They think it has
something to do with rubber.
I think it is rather fruitless to try to find a match going by color
NAME....there are only so many names to slap on a can. Good idea to
keep a log of color formulas you have used, as that is the best way to
find a match. That said, there is bound to be some variation in brands
or batches of tinting pigments. Bringing in a sample of the color to be
matched is best....a good paint dept./store will mix the color, take a
sample and DRY it, then adjust accordingly. And after all that, if
using different batches of paint, mix them whenever possible before the
first is depleted so that if there is a slight variation they will be
It is a mystery to me how "fashion trends" are decided a year or two in
advance of producing products (paint, wallpaper, furniture, fabric,
etc.), but that is how it goes. Behr and everyone else likely pay a lot
of attention to which colors are selling and which are not.
On Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:56:13 AM UTC-4, av wrote:
I work for a paint company, so I was the subject of all chemical compositio
ns in paints react differently to different colorants, what I mean is that
if you sold them a different line of paint (different than the original ) s
hould not necessarily apply the same formula and / or colorants, ask them t
o comply with (2 units Magneta and 4 Thalo blue) but do not guarantee the r
esults, because unknown to the chemical values of the two paintings, the sa
me problem try in our company almost daily, by state regulations, we have i
mproved the quality of our products by eliminating chemical contaminants, t
hat in turn affects the reaction of the dyes in the new base to the extent
that we have to adjust the formula to achieve the former colors. we recomme
nd you repaint.
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