OT Why $7.50 is enough

Feb 26, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 142 Replies

But they don't all report the same error codes.

Pity you are lying about that, presumably deliberately.

AND the OBD2 isnt the only source of error codes with cars, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

Only a subset of cars, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

Irrelevant to what plenty do with their cars.

BULLSHIT.

BULLSHIT with accidents.

Great there is only so much s*it and lies anyone should have to put up with.

Great, there is only so much of your s*it and lies anyone should have to put up with.

Just not for the employees they were supposed to be helping. You might as well just stay an expediter and not bother to move up for a lousy

73 cent raise and have to deal with running the shift. Just take the burgers and fries from the warmer, bag them and hand them to the customer. You can be stoned at work and handle that. You might be better.

Sounds reasonable to me. I don't know that much about the electrical system, but think that back in the 12 volt system years before the modern computer stuff that some ballast resistors were shorted out for cranking. Could be an intermittent connection somewhere in the starting system. Anyway whatever the problem was two dealerships failed to find the problem in a good number of trips back. The dealer in the town I bought it from and the dealer in the town I lived in.

At the time the car was bought in Mocksville and the other dealer was in Salisbury near the middle of North Carolina. Both small towns of maybe 30,000 at the time and around 20 miles apart.

That's what I thought, but people don't do that where I come from. I didn't think it was a real thing.

I doubt if anyone does that. Once you buy a car, it's yours. Parking it somewhere else doesn't change that, so you end up owning a car that you don't actually have in your possession. I don't think anyone does that.

If it's insured, park it in Detroit with the keys in it, wait a couple hours and then report it stolen.

The same democrats who stole the election will steal your car.

Hey Goober,

Those who can, do;  those who can't, teach.

Braggarts are often "all blow and no go."

Running the shift at a fast food joint is still boring, you just get yelled at more for stupid stuff the morons you are managing do.

That is what minimum wage jobs are. The only reason they exist is because a machine ends up costing more. Fast food has been ripe for automation for 30 years. They were just waiting for a financial incentive. A $15 wage would do it. You could easily see the staff cut in half just by adding a couple of machines. They have already lost 2 cashiers in most of the McDonalds by using self order kiosks and phone paid drive through orders. Once they start adding more automation to the food prep, staff will fall fast.

That is OK as long as you don't plan on borrowing money for anything else soon.

Not really. Our education system is dominated by people who went to school at 5 and never left. They never had a job that wasn't teaching things they have never done. That assumes they actually teach you something that translates to a job. I know the two colleges that I worked at had computer science programs that were teaching stuff that was 10 years old in a business that was changing yearly.

Even computer science programs are designed to churn out future professors, not future coders.

Cindy Hamilton

My SIL's father is a retired college professor and he says that about most university programs. He said they are not training anyone for a job unless you are in a professional course of study (Law, engineering or medicine)

In a state where certification or training was not mandatory OR common. Any Bubba who knew which end of a screwdriver was the handle could call himself a mechanic. Not saying there were not some pretty goof "self trained" mechanics - The Bootleggers who became Nascar builders prove that - But they did a lot off "research" and "studying" to figure out what they figured out. (and all the CURRENT Nascar teams are HIGHLY TRAINED!!!)

It is for guys with a 250 credit score - or a sub-50 IQ - can't go much lower by defaulting on the loan

And I DID for decades after I finished teaching - so that kinda blows that theory.

I'll still take on any one of you guys on this group in a diagnostics competition. I'm a bit slower on the wrench than I was 40 years ago - but I can still hold my own.

A prper technician training program teaches the PRINCIPALS of the technology. If you know how something works at the basic level you can figure out theadvanced features as well. If you know how something is SUPPOSED to work, and you can figure out what it is or is not doing that is NOT what it is supposed to do, a well trained tech can figure out what could cause the anomoly. Same with the OBD2. If you get a code telling you one bank is lean and that cat is running hot anf the HCs are high, you know that you have a combustion problem - and if combined with a cyl miss on that side you have a pretty good idea that it is NOT an O2 sensor problem (which the code would suggest) but the system is actually running with too much fuel in the exhaust - due to a likely ignition missfire. A 3 gas or 5 gas analyzer would prove it by likely showing high HCs (indicating rich) as well as high exhaust O2 (which an untrained mechanic woulf think meant running lean). That was how we diagnosed before OBD2 - Lots of the BASICS are still applicable to the new tech diagnosis.

I had one situation that REALLY had me (as well as another mechanic) totally flummoxed. It was that 1989 Aerostar (pre obd) that blew the converter seal outside Imlay City Michigan on the way to BC.

A few hours out of Imlay it started to misfire. We stopped for the night and it ran great when we left at 6am in the morning - for a while. Then it went back to a severe missfire.At about 7:30 we got to a small town with a Ford Dealer an a CONOCO station just off the highway. At 8 when they opened I checked both the dealer and the service station - the dealer couldn't look at it for 4 days - the service stzation mechanic had an 8am appointment, but was free to look at it at about 9:30 or 10:00.I had just put new plugs in before the trip and cleaned the injectors - so the Mechanic put it on the scope to check the firing patterns. They looked perfect - it idled smooth but misfired under load - with NO CHANGE in the firing pattern. He ran He pulled he plugs to see what they look like. 2 were totally black. Did I have 2 defective plugs that failed early?? I said change them all - just to be sure. When he went to put the wires back on he all af a sudden said something like "Whoa!! What have we here??" when he found 2 spark plug wires that looked and felt like burned hot dogs - about 5/8 of an inch in diameter and rough and scaly. The mechanic at Imlay City Ford had not fastened the spark plug wire loom bracket to the transmission bolt and 2 wires had been laying on the exhaust manifold and totally "toasted" - and the spark jumping through the carbonized silicone plug wire showed EXACTLY the same spark signature as a properly firing spark plug in the cyl. Between the next door Ford dealer and the NAPA store 3 blocks or so away they had the 2 wires we needed to make the repair and we were back on the road before lunch.

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