OT where has it gotten us?

Who causes the problems? The people who rolled up their sleeves and built this country? Or the lazy slugs who expect everything handed to them?

The Vietnam "War" was good for bidness. God bless Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics and RINO Dick Cheney!

Sadly, I'm old and won't be around to see it but someday, after Civil War II, We the People will have a similar museum. Maybe the patriots will have replicas of the Obiden Crime Family swinging in the breeze?

micky wrote on 3/11/2024 3:08 AM:

You already had a draft dodger and coward businessman Trump last time. He promised to zero out the national debt in 4 years, but instead he increased the national debt by 8.2 trillion, or 40% during his 4 years of chaos.

That's "Udvar" Micky, not "Ugvar". My entire Hungarian birth family is rolling over in their graves. Udvar in Hungarian means court, or courtyard, or yard. (How that word came to be part of someone's surname is beyond me. Maybe one of his relatives was a grounds-keeper way back when.)

Sorry about that. I had to check twice to get that close. (Very poor with very short term memory.)

Interesting.

It says that Stephen Udvar-Hazy came as to the US at age 12 in 1958 with his family after the Soviets crushed the Hungarian reviolution of 1956. I dated a girl a little older than me who left then too. I was 9 then; she might have been 12 or 16, or older if like Udvar-Hazy she didn't leave until 1958. She didn't get along with her mother also. She had to swim across the Danube River to get away, from the Soviets I guess. She came to NYC and was living a pretty good life, giving art lectures at the Metropolitan Museum etc. Then in the late 70's something changed politically in Hungary and she could go back without getting in trouble, so she did, and it turned out her mother was no longer there, she was living in NYC, had been for years!! Just a couple miles from my friend. So they got together again and it was wonderful except it didn't take long until the mother was telling the girl how to dress and how to wear her hair etc. Just like it had been.

Maybe a noble courtier?

micky wrote on 3/11/2024 11:52 AM:

I hope all mothers are like that, so that we wouldn't have all those girls twerking on TikTok.

Paging Ray Walston... In addition to his other roles, he portrayed the groundskeeper at Star Fleet Academy in the followup Star Trek series.

To change the subject, how can tiktok be a security risk? All I see are

What does it matter if they can see my location? If I wasn't where I am, someone else would be here.

Because if you are foolish enough to download their application on your phone, they'll have access to your address list, browsing preferences, application credentials, and who knows what else.

Sounds like the same behavior I endured as a child from my mother. Very "old school" European. Brainwashed by her mother. Never stopped her entire life. Full blown adult-child perspective till the day she died when she was in her mid-90s. Even though she was brought to the U.S. when she was less than 2 yrs. old, she never adapted to the American cultural standards.

And I'm willing to bet that no one forces you to watch those TikToks.

The risk is the concern that buried in their software are codes that can turn on your phone's cameras and microphones and that can read all the files on your phone including your e-mail, texts, contacts, etc. etc. Your phone might not have anything of interest but if the app is freely available, it may be installed by people whose phone contents would be of interest to an adversary.

And I thought the nobility in my family tree wasn't known to the general public. Supposedly, I'm directly descended on my mother's side from the Eszterhazy family.

How does that make tiktok more of a problem than any other app that can do the same things. is China going to attack the US by all of a sudden making a 200,000 false charges on 100,000 stolen credit cards?

Unrelated, because I asked about security risk but as to me personally, I have only done anything financial on 3 sites, and even for those I save neither userids or passwords. What does it matter if they know my contact list. All those phone numbers appear elswhere or they can just try consecutive phone numbers. 1 out of 2 will work. That the other person knows me doesn't make them more valuable.

Browsing preference. i'm not ashamed of the sites I look at. Millions of people look at all of them.

Application credentials. I think that means userids and passwords.

So, I've lost track. Are they trying to ban tiktok from the phones of govt employees and contractors, which fits what you say, or from everyone?

I the old days people lived in small pockets of settlement, and people did not travel far, therefore there was no need for a "family name". For example, Jesus didn't have a family name in Biblical times. In the Bible, he was referred to as "Jesus of Nazareth".

After a while, people found the need to have a "family name" or a "last name" to avoid confusion because human settlements were getting crowded. They had inventive ways to pick a last name to adhere to.  Many people use their profession as their last name, e.g. Carpenter, Miller, etc."Cohen" is Hebrew for "priest", for example.The Japanese are known to use natural landscape features as their family name.

Sure but look at the benefits. How else would you become adventurous and take the Tide Pod Challenge?

They are educational, showing poor kids how to steal a Kia.

I never heard of Chroming, but thanks to TicTok, I can now participate.

It might. Or it might use data mining techniques to launch a cyber attack on our financial systems.

Or they might identify vulnerable people in sensitive positions (e.g., government or defense contractors) to try to leverage them to commit espionage.

It's not about an old fart like you. It's about people who really manage their lives from their phones.

How else would my Twitter and Facebook followers know what good things I'm doing? I impress them every hour.