On 10/24/2015 10:53 AM, email@example.com wrote:
I think there are actually several closely related questions in play.
- what would others/heirs need after my demise
- what would others need if I was incapacitated (and they needed to
conduct my affairs on my behalf)
- what would I need to take with me if I had to bug-out
While this is off topic, it does bring up a question. If someone has no
direct heirs or family, but writes a WILL, where should that will be
placed so that it's known after it's owner dies or becomes
incapacitated? For example, if I make a will, and the will states the
location of all my other important papers, that should suffice as far as
covering all the most important things. But lets say that my spouse dies
and there are no direct family members, (no offspring or other direct
family). How is anyone going to know that I have a will, and where it
Do I simply hang it on the wall in my home so everyone can see it, or do
I need to have a copy of it filed with the local court house, or what?
I've never understood what to do about this, and dont want to hire a
lawyer. I wrote my own will using the legal forms, and had it notorized
which is required to make it legal, but where do I put it?????
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 3:18:02 PM UTC-4, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Presumably you've chosen an executor. Tell the executor where the
will is. You could give the executor a sealed copy of the will,
if you're comfortable with that. You can also have multiple copies,
if that helps. How secure, how protected you want to make it is up
to you. If you have it at home and it's the only copy, having it
in a fireproof, but not locked box would be a good idea. Just tell
the executor where the box is located. I don't
think you want only one copy and for that to be in a bank safety deposit
box. When you pass the executor or whoever will have trouble getting
it. With the will, they can get appointed executor and then access
the safe deposit box, but not the other way around.
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
I dont have an executor. Maybe that's soemthing I need to do. But the
person I'd choose lives in another state, so a bank safety box would not
be ideal, and I'd rather avoid the cost of renting one of them too. I do
have multiple copies. One in the house, one in another building on my
property (not attached to the house). But I think an executor may be the
better way to do it, and give them a copy. I'll have to check into this.
On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 4:14:40 PM UTC-4, email@example.com wrote:
IDK how things work where you are, but I can't imagine having a will
without naming an executor. If you don't name one, I would think that's
where trouble will start. Then no one knows who is in charge, who's going
to make funeral arrangements, etc. The probate court would have to
appoint one before anything could be done. And they probably appoint
a lawyer, one of their buddies, that starts running up legal charges
as he, someone not even familiar with who you are, what you have,
figures it all out. Typically an executor is a close relative or a
friend, etc. and if they aren't an heir already, you can leave them
something in your will for their trouble.
Wife and I had wills made 40+ years ago. Not sure anyone mentioned in
it as executor or back up is alive today. I had it reviewed a few years
ago and it is still OK.
Wife and I also had power of attorney and living wills made up about 15
With two lawyer sons, I'm not concerned about needing to update anything.
On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 8:09:07 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
Take a look at your will and I'll bet your wife is named as executor.
Ask your sons if they write wills with no executor named. It's possible,
I guess, but it seems bizarre. The will specifies what you want done
and naming the executor specifies who you want to carry out those instructions.
Seems everyone that has a will would want to know who they trust to
carry it out.
You are right, and if she cannot do it it passes to our eldest living son.
I had not looked at it when making my post and was probably thinking of
guardians for the kids.
Kids were small when we made up our wills and if we had both died in a
plane crash for example money would have gone into a trust.
For op, lawyers can be expensive and you might consider an internet
legal resource for your will. I used one to set up a corporation for
myself and probably saved considerable money.
My sons are trustworthy and ethical. They all have good jobs and are
I do agree that you should always be aware of family members taking
advantage of you. I know of a couple of severe examples.
The few unethical lawyers make the others look bad but most think the
joke is true that, "the 90% unethical lawyer make the other 10% look bad."
firstname.lastname@example.org posted for all of us...
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Send everything to me. I will take care of them at minimal cost. Spare your
heirs the time and trouble during a difficult time. First start off with a
comprehensive power of attorney.
Do you have a living will? The health care people will need some
on how much effort they should put into saving you if you're incapacitated.
It will also take the decision making burden off of any relatives you have.
Drop a copy off wherever you've had medical care.
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
I'd be interested to know what the reaction would be -
- at my 3 or 4 local hospitals - when all the people in the area -
- took your advice -
- and - walked in and asked them to file their Living Will ..
I suspect they would tell you to look after your own paperwork ..
I don't know if that would be a problem in this age of electronic
records. I had to see an attorney recently. He scanned papers and
handed them back to me. My mom's living will was on file at the local
hospital. I think all her info including it was sent to another one
when she needed to be transferred.
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Pretty much a meaningless piece of paper - until the next-of-kin
or legal POA gives the say-so ... The hospital doesn't know if
their copy is indeed the most recent wishes of the patient.
Also consider carefully (if you can) where you are treated! You
want to be sure the organization will *honor* your wishes and
not confuse their own personal/religious beliefs!
SWMBO father was resuscitated despite clear directions to the contrary
in his living will. SWMBO actually had to be on the spot to *enforce*
his wishes (with threat of lawsuit -- i.e., "I will be a WITNESS to any
acts that you perform on him!")
I've heard similar stories from friends, here, with one of the
hospitals run by a Catholic order.
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