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Well maybe your school district wasn't any good...or you Were assigned to the class with the Sweat Hogs?

At a school like RPI back in those years, my guess is that class was actually English As A Second Language for the foreign students.

College prep. They recognized that AP English would be much more valuable than a dead language.

Besides French and Spanish and 4 years of Latin, my school district taught Latin and Greek Derivatives, which was one year or maybe 1 semester. Helps with English vocabulary.

(Latin grammar helps explain English grammar. Apparently the reason to never split an infinitive is that in Latin "to" and "the verb" are one word and can't be split. Not a very good reason imo but splitting infinitives was heavily disdained for a long time.)

There was a high school in the city of Indianapolis that among other languages taught Hebrew.

I've never needed help.

English is a Germanic language. The split infinitive thing was forced on English in 1887. It's B.S., and I don't worry about it.

While it is true that he saxons influenced English, but there are plenty of latin-derived words and grammar than one might assume.

Consider concord and discord, for example. (Hearts together and Hearts apart).

Hi Micky,

Don't worry, no politics follows.

A fun article for you to ?to boldly go? and read.

Split Infinitives are Not Incorrect Grammatically

For example: ?Jamie decided to slowly remove his hat.? Obviously, aside from completely re-writing the sentence, there are three ways you could make a small modification to remove the split infinitive:

The first way is as such: ?Jamie decided slowly to remove his hat.? That changes the meaning of the sentence, so that option is out.

The second way would be: ?Jamie decided to remove slowly his hat.? That?s just awkward. (And I should know, I?m apparently a professional at creating awkwardly worded sentences, if you follow my work here) ?

The third way would be: ?Jamie decided to remove his hat slowly.? That?s much better, but is somewhat ambiguous as it isn?t completely clear whether he decided slowly or removed the hat slowly.

They have a fun video of it with Simon Whistler, but they took it down.

As far as I can tell, it is almost impossible not to split infinitives in English without the sentence coming out really awkward

-T

I forgot to mention, there is adjacent channel bleed. So you want to pick a channel with the least signal on either side of it.

Oops, wrong thread

You are correct that even in the '60s there were a number of students from India and China but this was to brush up native English speakers.

I had one physics TA who was from India. I'm not sure if the jaguar jacket was real or faux fur but the caste mark was real. She spoke very rapidly, Hindi I think. Fortunately I learn much better from text than the spoken word and don't really need a TA reading the book to me.

That carries through to the ever popular youtube video that is someone reading a PowerPoint presentation.

That was the damn Normans. They also introduced the tony 'pork' for good old pig meat.

The only practical use I've found for German lately is Schwedenkrimi. Stieg Larsson, Henning Mankel, and others get translated to English. Others like Schepp get translated to German and are available on Kindle.

English is still a member of the Western Germanic family of languages, despite the linguistic fallout from 1066.

Consider the syntax. Where do the adjectives go? Before or after the noun?

Yes, syntax is germannic, but we were talking about Latin and Greek derivatives, iow, words. "Over 60 percent of all English words have Greek or Latin roots"

The other chairs in the room. You shoudln't leave a female chair alone with male furniture without a chaperone.

And you needed an entire semester (or year) for _that_? An etymological dictionary has always sufficed for me.

Oh, it's still there. Except for not native speakers nobody would refer to a chair as he or she or a cat as 'it' unless you never bothered to look. Humans have become a crap shoot.

English has a few quirks. With poetical language the moon comes out as 'she' and the sun as 'he', ass backwards to German.

Been a long time but iirc Strunk & White suggested you avoid all that fancy Latin stuff like the plague.

I didn't take the course. They discourage it for anyone taking Latin itself. (Though that didn't include any Greek)

That's like saying you don't need to take History when there are books on history.

By the time someone is our age, it's easy to forget how little we knew during high schoo. By the time someone is our age or even 40, he has learned what most even less common English words mean and he's deduced what the foreign language roots are, and he might even be able to understand other words built on the same roots, but when someone is 14, that's not true.

Much of this is true about other topics too. Someone who never went to high school or other than reading and writing, even grammar school, by the time he's 40 he's learned most of what he would learn there. And the purpose of school is to give people a running start, so they don't have to wait extra decades to learn those things.

That's intrinsic gender, not grammatical gender.

The sun has a god and the moon has a goddess. Of course the sun and moon are he and she.