OT: More on High Fructose Corn Syrup

Or could make it worse. Taking opiates, for example, slows down the peristalic action of the intestines, allowing waste to pass more slowly through the large intestine. This slower process causes more moisture to be removed from the waste which, in turn, causes constipation.

In this case, the object of the drill is to get MORE moisture into the bowel (which more fiber won't do).

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HeyBub
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A good scientist first notices correlation, then tries to determine possible causation. Take pickles.

Scientists noticed that everyone who ate pickles before 1910 is, today, either dead or has white hair and no teeth.

Devising appropriate experiments, scientists force-fed five pounds of pickles per day to laboratory rats. In short order, they discovered that the rats developed distended bellies and became lethargic. While the rats did NOT turn white (they already were) nor loose their teeth, exciting new avenues of research are awaiting the freeing of funds from the global warming labs across the hall.

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HeyBub

Generally that is what fiber DOES do.

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clare

I sometimes experience a slowdown when I take larger doses of my pain meds but a specialist in the digestive system told me that constipation due to pain medication is because the medication masks the urge to empty the bowls. Perhaps there is more than one cause?

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:icp6dc$obk$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

Medication can /definitely/ affect bowel function. My wife was on blood- pressure medication for a while; it stopped her up but good. Once she was off the meds, the bowels returned to normal.

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Tegger

" snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

So I was wrong? Aw, dang.

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Tegger

snipped-for-privacy@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@manx.misty.com:

I sit at a computer much of the day. I eat in restaurants a lot (Red Robin's stack-o-rings! Yum!). I drink a lot of 20oz Diet Dr. Peppers. I eat way too many cookies than are good for me, I'm sure. I supersize when they offer it.

So how come I'm 6'2" and 180 lbs?

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Tegger

Speed?

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gfretwell

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Oh, no. I haven't done methamphetamines in many years, so that can't be it.

BTW, I forgot to mention Red Robin's deep-fried jalapeno coins. Even more Yum!

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Tegger

Because you are not fifty yet????? In most cases, eventually the birds come home to roost.

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clare

"Tegger" wrote

Consider yourself fortunate. I've known a few people like that. No matter how much they eat, they don't pack on the pounds. Just something in your metabolism that works right for you.

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Ed Pawlowski

Perhaps inefficient digestion and absorption of nutrients? I know a few people that I could swear are able photosynthesize. They don't eat that much but pack on the avoirdupois. :-)

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

-snip-

Genetics? Age? That was me until I hit 40 [well- 185, but most the carnies always guessed my weight at 165]--- Despite warnings from my father, I swear the day after my 40th birthday I weighed 210. At 47 I weighed 265 & had a heart attack. Now I fight to stay under 240.

Jim

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Jim Elbrecht

Excellent summary. This report makes it clear that in this world, last week's truth is this week's fallacy.

In all these warnings not to make false links, I'd say "be careful not to overlook valid links, either." If I were an agro-conglomerate, I'd pay a lot to spread alternative theories around. Theories that would try to keep people from thinking their product might be causing serious medical harm. We stopped using sugar mainly because of our embargo of Cuba. We believed that we could cripple their economy and reduce Soviet bloc influence. It did the former - they were seriously harmed and would not have survived without large and continous commie handouts and control - the thing we wanted to AVOID in the first place.

HPAGWBIJDA

That's a lot of different mixes and uses for something people insist is just like table sugar. Anyone who has poured out a bottle of cool corn syrup knows "that ain't sugar."

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We still barely understand weight regulation in the human body. As evidence, there are only two approved weight loss drugs compared to the arsenal of different drugs to treat diabetes. Until we do get a lot smarter, many questions will go unanswered. The problem is that most research is done by companies to try to prove their product is safe. Funding to prove a product unsafe is much harder to find. (-:

Yes! I have been arguing that HFCS is NOT the same from the beginning and now that independent (read: not HFCS-funded) studies are being performed, the differences are beginning to appear. It would serve the US right to end up with a generation of diabetics because we wanted to do economic harm to Castro. Maybe those Gaia people are right and the world does take care of itself. Mother earth has avenged the Cubans.

The info for the Princeton info can be found here at the Princeton site.

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"Some people have claimed that high-fructose corn syrup is no different than other sweeteners when it comes to weight gain and obesity, but our results make it clear that this just isn't true"

This really makes me wonder why so many people believed that table sugar and HFCS were the same when it's so apparent that they're not. Why blend what's the same? Because, obviously, they are NOT the same. Just because there are coincidental trends doesn't eliminate the switch to HFCS as the cause. It just requires careful research methodology to account for and eliminate as many possible "false positives" as possible.

Rat research is ideal to eliminate claims this could be a socially generated event brought on by lifestyle. Rats don't sit in front of computers all day, aren't victim to a more sedentary lifestyle, conveniently can live on an incredibly unvaried diet - all the things that a *could* also be the cause of an epidemic of childhood obesity and diabetes. The Princeton work is going to generate an impressive number of follow-on studies. Many will be industry-financed and will be attempting to disprove this latest discovery. More research may just end up get HFCS banned or at least require warning labels on products containing it. Look at how look unbelievably long it took people to *finally* figure out smoking was bad. Look at how many people *still* smoke!

Honey's great. It never spoils because it has natural antibiotic properties.

-- Bobby G.

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Robert Green

=3D=3D Bullshit, I have had honey go "rotten" to the point where I would not consume it. What a dark evil color it changes to as it deteriorates. =3D=3D

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Roy

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-- Bobby G.

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Robert Green

And if it ferments it becomes mead (or honeywine)

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clare

"Roy" wrote

I'd bet it had contaminants in it. Honey has been known to last decades with no deterioration.

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Ed Pawlowski

=3D=3D Could be. That was the only time that it ever happened to me. It was purchased as creamed honey, then it went liquid and started to darken and after the taste changed for the worst I yukked it down the toilet. I should have contacted the farm that packed it as there was a name and address on the container. Actually it was packed on a farm about a three hour drive from here.

=3D=3D

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Roy

Thanks to the last poster,whose more detailed analysis, plus yet another quote from Science Daily, reinforces my original post, repeated above. For the sake of our children and grandchildren who are exposed to this stuff, we should educate them how to avoid it to the extent possible, and seek out more healthful alternatives.

HB

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Higgs Boson

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