Workers Comp. would be FINE if they would eliminate the fraud and fake
lawsuites...Strange how many that get kicked off welfare due to time limits
, marriage , kids over 18 , ect. end up on Workers Comp then SSI
Disability..It is a scam run right out in the open here in the Liberal State
of Maine.....The Republicans TRIED to ammend the healthcare bill with Tort
Reform....The Dems wouldn't allow it...We will STILL have the ambulance
chasers like John Edwards running around and suing for fake injuries....You
mean "bureaucrats" like the ones who CAN'T even run the Cash for Clunkers
Program or any other Government Program for that matter...See the SS adm. or
the VA...God help us....
And what Canada pays from taxes to cover everyone there is no higher
percentage of GDP that USA pays from taxes (and government borrowing, to
be paid plus intrerest by taxpayers in the future) to cover only:
Medicare and Medicaid, sCHIPs, military and veterans, the few poor
and low income workers actually benefiting from county programs, and
employer contributions to health insurance premiums of gubmint workers in
Canada gubmint spends no higher percentage of GDP than USA does to cover
what USA gubmint does not: The vast majority of private sector workers,
a significant chunk of the unemployed, as well as gubmint employees
outside healthcare-related agencies such as police officers and public
school teachers and court employees.
- Don Klipstein ( firstname.lastname@example.org)
When I needed Eprex 3 times(1 cc shots by myself) a week it did not
cost me a dime. Still taking anti rejection pills(may be rest of my
life), Immuran and Rapamune every day. Nothing comes out of my pocket.
I just phone in and go pick up the refill.
No obviously it IS being paid for (by taxation etc.) and medics of all
types (and researchers) should be well paid. But it more a matter of
eliminating much of the waste and inefficiency (and unnecessary
duplication) from existing systems being run for profit!
Hospitals buy a pair of rubber gloves for 3 cents, and sell it to the
patient for $5. A box of Klennex tissues sold by the hospital is $13.
A hospital has a separate department for billing and another for
collections. I have seen a billing department with over 80 employees
for just one hospital. Will the government fix this? Or, maybe the
government needs to stop trying to fix things.
One guy, after he had already lost his house because of his enormous
hospital bills. started checking those bills more thoroughly. The "mucus
retrieval kit" for which he had been billed $78.xx turned out to be a
box of Kleenex.
So do we just let the foxes continue to (pretend to) guard the hen house?
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:06:04 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
In American hospitals,
them that pays, pay for them that don't pay !
Federal law requires hospitals to treat anyone
that shows up at the door.....
What percentage do you think pay for treatment ?
Hospitals in many Arizona towns have been put out of business
by Mexicans who come across the border for treatment,
then slip back across the border when discharged.....
We joke that the US border patrol could solve much
of the illegals problem ( and help the hospitals too )
just by patrolling the Emergency Rooms !
Yes we have some problems with "Americans who come across the border
too ...... !".
At least in future, at the insistence of the US Dept. of Security,
everyone will have a passport. And they will need it to get back into
And talking about a 3 cent pair of gloves; if that's what they cost
that's what they cost; here there is no 'billing the customer' at an
inflated rate. The 3 cent's is just part of the cost of running the
hospital. And with the oversight of government to control costs etc.
the hospitals have considerable purchasing power to keep the costs of
rubber gloves and/or drugs down to reasonable level!
That sort of thing is another reason that overhead admin. costs of the
Canadian system are around 4%. In the USA it's around 20%.
We have all heard about the standard hammer that costs Uncle Sam's
military forces $125!
Went for blood test the other day, the plastic card showed that I am a
resident/taxpayer of this part of Canada. If I was resident of another
province I would have been treated just the same and there would some
sort sort of settlement between the two provinces.
A couple years ago I was searching on line for some hinges. I found one
supplier who claimed to specialize in supplying the Federal Govt. They
had hinges the same as I had bought already at Lowe's (same
manufacturer, same part number) -- but the price was at least 5 times
Largely to cover the extra costs of going through the government
procurement procedures. They might have been the same, but the
government often requires a line of tests to make sure that it really is
what it says it is. And don't even get me started on mil spec.
Searching is half the fun: life is much more manageable when thought
of as a scavenger hunt as opposed to a surprise party.
Plus, to sell to the government, you have to certify you don't discriminate,
pay "prevailaing wages," undergo background checks, and donate to your local
congressman's re-election campaign.
All these drive up the cost of doing business.
Years ago, a friend of mine who worked on medical equipment
showed me a screw for an X-ray machine that had a price of
$25.00. I could go to a hardware supplier and buy the same
grade 8 socket head screw for 25 cents. The reason for the
high cost of the X-ray machine screw was all the extensive
certifications and testing along with a traceable paperwork
trail. I think the paperwork weighed more than a box of 100
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