OT: Complaints about lack of PPE!?

Why are people grumbling the government won't give teachers PPE masks? You can get them online for a fiver for goodness sake. What next, buy socks for them?

Reply to
Commander Kinsey
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Prick.

Reply to
Mr Pounder Esquire

Have you turned left wing?

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Pounder needs it at his age.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Ebay. £5. Not the end of the world, since you're required to pay for the petrol to drive to work.

I was at Sky. That was not one of the things I was annoyed about.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Yes, and I don't mind buying those either. Has anyone ever taken their employer to court over no pens?

Not when most people commute a distance requiring 1-2 hours of cycling each way, and the employer would not be happy when you turned up soaking wet.

You missed my point. Do you seriously think Sky was in breach of contract for not giving me a pen? I got irritated by the lack of pens and childish people grumbling so I would often take in a box of 50 and place it in the centre of the table.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Why would I care about 10p items?

They stop you doing your job.

And as I've already said a fiver won't break the bank, just buy your own mask, like you buy your own shirt.

They do here. I knew of one who could have walked in about 10 minutes, one who occasionally cycled in 15 minutes, everyone else had to drive in.

On whose time?

The point is below.

But I can simply pay £5 and not be killed. My health, my choice.

And you call me a scrounger....

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Your OCD is showing. Stop being so f****ng childish and pay the 10p.

If you need to write to do your job, no pen means no work achieved. How thick are you?!

Only if you're two faced.

They're both items of clothing.

Incorrect.

Most drove for about 20 minutes.

The travel time on a bicycle is absurd. Go look up the average commuting mileage.

Stop interrupting like a child.

They're on Ebay!!! I've already told you this, do try to keep up at the back.

Why is it wrong? Stop copying and pasting and actually write some information.

And yet you want £5 for a f****ng mask!

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

There seems to be a lot of crap masks being sold at premium prices. The masks people seem to wearing in public are not even suitable for dust protection let alone virus protection. Many of the Chinese sellers of such items seem to have disappeared from Amazon etc. presumably after complaints from people who have purchased such items.

Reply to
alan_m

How do you know they're no good unless you catch Corona?

Anyway I thought all any of these masks did was to catch airbourne dampness, eg cough particles. Nothing is fine enough to block a virus.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

£5 ain't premium.

Ah but Chinese face no same shape as big tall Caucasian! You no blame us for your funny head!

Because Ebay is easier to use. I like it's search functions. I like how easy it is to return stuff if it's faulty. I like how I can very easily see the feedback of a seller.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Sneakers don't make good hammers either. The purpose of these is not PPE.

Yes, there's always someone willing to make a buck on other's misery.

Reply to
FromTheRafters

Maybe your face is a funny shape. Maybe you could just bend it.

Then do feel free to write in the correct answer. If you know it that is.

Tell me the diameter of a virus.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

There may be cheaper ones (especially if you buy a pack of them), I just had a quick look to buy some online and saw them at £5 to £10 for single ones. Which is cheap enough not to moan your employer isn't giving them away. But then teachers on their high wages with huge holidays still want more....

So it's a magical mask that changes shape before your very eyes?

You look very funny to us superior beings. You also grow pubic hair on your chest you silly neanderthal.

1 click is silly. On Ebay I type in a keyword or three, then narrow it down saying I want a certain speed, size, colour, price, etc.

What do you mean?

Can't get better than Ebay. I just bought some 2nd hand memory for a server. It arrived greasy and on a bag which was not anti-static. I tried it anyway, in two machines, and both failed the power on memory test. I simply clicked "return item", then typed in why, and it printed off a freepost label. I stuck it on the parcel it arrived in and shoved it in the post box round the corner. When it arrived the money went back to my account.

I want feedback on the seller, not the item.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Many masks are sold as "PPE". Do those work?

That's not always wrong. For example a local shop here bought up 1000 hand sanitisers for £1 each then sold them at £30. I see nothing wrong with that. Supply and demand innit? Somebody has to do without, why shouldn't it be the poor?

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

Now I don't know about that, but why should they have to pay to do their job. In any case, from what I see and hear, school and teaching young kids could well be very safe indeed, far safer than breathing other peoples germs in the park etc. This hopefully will dismiss many untruths accepted for years about infectious diseases and their spread and how to prevent it. I am no scientist, nor doctor, but purely on looking at what has been going on: Infections of most viral strains happens long before anyone actually notices, as many people have some immunity already, so unless you can get on the testing very early you will never be on top of it. Many people do not get it very badly. In the main this goes unnoticed, the difference with the latest one is that a very few actually do get it badly.

Social distancing at 2m is not any safer than 1m in free air, and unless you are coughing your guts up spitting or wiping your nose with your hand, there seems no harm in filling all seats on a bus for short periods. We have seen these projections that sneezes and coughs can project virus particles a long way, but recent studies seem to be saying that these are particles only and you do need a much higher density to actual infect unless you are that unlucky person who catches everything going.

I'll stop there, but I've just been sitting here reading reports etc and this is what I think from doing that. I have no doubt that there are times when things go badly wrong, as we are talking risk percentages, and everyone has to decide the risk to themselves if and others.

Governments try to play it ultra safe when they can of course, but I don't think helping a blind man across the road, or standing in a queue for a short time is going to be an issue in general. Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

total lie. its 2^3 8 times safer

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Who for? The kids are at low risk of being seriously ill or dying as a result of catching the virus but in its more of a problem with other people in the school depending on the age profile, and general health, of the teachers and any support staff.

Reply to
alan_m

You think so? I got whooping cough AND croup at a young age and developed asthma thereafter.

Just because people don't die, doesn't mean they aren't scarred for life

Like my cardiac specialist 'really people should take medication instead of having stents inserted'.

'Have you ever taken any of the medications you prescribe?' 'No'....

Just because you live as long doesn't mean it doesn't screw you up far worse than operations.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Then why are they not removed from sale and the seller punished by flogging? I've had Ebay accounts deleted for far less.

Then tell me what's wrong with it. All those sanitisers were sold. So richer folk got them instead of poorer folk, so what? The same number of lives were saved, and those of more successful people.

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Commander Kinsey

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