up (sorry!) my intuitive distrust of the cloud for
two reasons (a) hackability -- not that I have any
thing the NSA would enjoy, and (b) unreliability.
SM: I don't know a lot about the NSA, but no way to
know. They may be trying to capture everything in
the way of data.
backing up!] to an external Seagate HD. Problem is,
it runs off my computer, so if disaster strikes, would
I lose everything IF HD was shut off?
SM: I had a computer virus one time, that killed my
hard drive. It also killed two external drives. I've
backed up what I can to CD and DVD, as they won't
pick up a virus, later.
lady's input] seems to be in favor of keeping one's
backup-- in this case the ext. HD -- in a separate
physical location. What does that MEAN? In
another room? In another building?
SM: Another building. Work, or at friend's house,
or outin the car.
HD is ON, contents will be wiped in disaster?
But if it IS OFF, contents will NOT be lost?
SM: I'd keep the HD detached from the computer,
unless in use. I lost a couple external drive
nestle beside the computer? Very confused...
backup habits I have desultorily researched apps?
software? that are said to enable continuous backup
of DATA -- not programs, which can presumably be
SM: I should research that, also.
few years ago, in dealing with backup, so I your
On Monday, December 2, 2013 2:31:05 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I set up a daily scheduled task that does an xcopy from our home office pc
to an older xp in our detached garage. Xcopy has an argument that does a d
ate compare so it only updates the files that got changed or are new. Sinc
e it's a copy anything we accidentally delete gets left on the backup drive
. This is also made easier because we do not store any personal files on o
ur C drive, we use a second large drive. That makes upgrading computers a
lot easier too, just pop out the drive and add it to the new computer.
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:07:02 -0800 (PST), jamesgang
xxcopy works a lot better. At my brother's shop, we hdcloned the
drive, then on a daily basis xxcopied the changed files to the drive.
He had a twin to the office computer at home, which he used for his
home system but was also "sitting in the wings" as a backup for the
office - just pop in the cloned drive, and you are up and running.
Unless you have very large ammounts of data, I would recommend smaller
drives (not much bigger than your hard drive) and use atleast 2 or 3 of them
and rotate them every day. I have two desk tops in sepeate rooms and they
both have about the same picture and data files on them. With that is a
netbook I often have with me with most of the same. I do use one of the USB
mini hard drives for a backup and have a few DVDs with copies of the
picutres. If you have a secure place where you work or a close by relative
you can trust, you may want to leave a copy of the important stuff there.
I don't want any of my data on a cloud where others may be able to get to
I wouldn't, because the typical HD size nowadays is 1 TB. Anything
smaller than that won't be much cheaper. Since the price will be about
the same, you might as well buy more storage. For one thing, the
larger the device, the more copies of a backup it can hold. For
another, people tend to accumulate more files than they think they
will. More room is good.
and use atleast 2 or 3 of them
Remember, when it's attached to your network, it's just as vulnerable
to hacking as the rest of your network. If you're not capable of doing
a complete reinstall if your pc fails, then keep a backup drive
connected in order to backup Windows and all your programs and system
files. But as for your personal data, if it's important, limit your
exposure to hackers/thieves by not keeping it (always) on your
network. Store it on removable devices that can be connected only when
you need access to the data. Otherwise, keep them off the network.
That goes for home networks as well. If it's kept on any device that
is connected to your home network, and your network is connected to
the internet, others may be able to get to it.
Separate your data into two categories: the stuff that's okay for
others to view and/or share (e-books, recipes, music, etc), and the
stuff that must be kept private (financial data, highly personal
photos and such).
If it must be kept private, don't store it on your home network. Use
removable storage that is only connected to your pc or device on an
as-needed basis. As for the lower-level stuff, store it where
ever/however is most convenient for you to manage. But if it's
important enough to keep, make backup copies of it.
It seems a copy goes to NSA and who knows who else while you're uploading
<<People knowledgeable about Google and Yahoo's infrastructure say they
believe that government spies bypassed the big Internet companies and hit
them at a weak spot - the fiber-optic cables that connect data centers
around the world that are owned by companies like Verizon Communications,
the BT Group, the Vodafone Group and Level 3 Communications. In particular,
fingers have been pointed at Level 3, the world's largest so-called Internet
backbone provider, whose cables are used by Google and Yahoo.>>
Fresh personal data, get it while it's hot!
I had Carbonite for a year and cannot recommend it.
My machine went down and while I found it backed up all my docs and pics
it did not backup music and videos and most importantly my Thunderbird
It took overnight on initial backup and subsequently was very intrusive
in doing its background work. Often it would not let me shut my system
down until it was done working.
I now use a separate Seagate hard drive for backup. Did not cost much
more than the one year Carbonite subscription and is not intrusive at all.
Most subscription-based backup plans will automatically backup data
found in certain folders (the User profile, most commonly), but if
there's anything else stored elsewhere on the pc, the user must add
that to their backup profile. Also, some plans limit the amount of
data that can be backed up or have a maximum file size limit. So you
have to read the terms of the plan to see if it'll fit your needs, and
you may have to tweak your backup profile settings so it can find all
the stuff you want it to backup.
Again, usually backup services have a user console that allows the
user to change certain settings to the user's preference. And yes, the
initial backup will be the slowest, because that's the first time it's
backing up all your (selected) data. After that, it just performs
Personally, I prefer onsite storage, but there's a lot of my stuff
that is handy to have ready access to (as long as there's an internet
connection). For instance, my recipe collection and my service manuals
for my cars and my yard equipment. It's really convenient to call up
that service manual when I'm at the shop for a repair or just to buy a
replacement part. I don't care if the world gets access to that kind
of stuff, so I keep a copy in the cloud.
I had not checked it when I signed up and mistakenly believed they would
save any user files like my email. Fortunately any important stuff had
been put in my docs files.
My isp, Comcast, offers something like 10mB free storage as I believe do
my two websites.
The thing that annoyed me most about Carbonite was its intrusiveness and
the time it took.
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