The phone options change faster than I can type.
Critically dependent on where you live.
I have wireless WiMax internet service thru FreedomPop $15/month.
I use Google voice for my phone for free.
It forwards to my OBI box for free.
It forwards to my MagicJack Plus. Got that when google was
threatening to kill off the obi option.
It forwards to my cellphone thru PagePlus for $30/yr.
It forwards to another cellphone thru Lycamobile.
I answer on the computer or either or the voip boxes using
regular cordless phones, or either of the cellphones.
Lycamobile is interesting if your 5-6 calls are short,
or you make them thru your computer.
It's prepaid 5-cents/minute...was 2-cents when I signed up.
Data is 6-cents/megabyte...outrageously expensive...but.
The prepaid minutes never expire, as long as you spend 5-cents
every 3 months.
If you don't use it much, it's dramatically cheaper than anything
else I've found. $6 for 100 megabytes doesn't sound so bad if
you're saving $40/month...and rarely use it anyway.
We had planned to cancel our landline. They asked what it
would take to 'keep us' as customers. I told them if they could
get us around $20 a month we'd consider. After talking with a
supervisor we were offered a barebones service for $20. We
accepted, kept it about a year and then cancelled anyway as
both of our cellphones have proven very reliable over the years.
I know card services. I said she had a pretty voice. She said Thank
you. I asked what she was wearing. She said Clothes, like at the
office. I said, two or three times, What else are you wearing. I
think that's when she hung up.
I have the bell of the phone near my bed turned off, but if I'm
expecting a call, I turn it on. Then the spammers call and wake me up.
Well, once that happend.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:09:53 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Nonetheless, the number of spam calls I get is much lower.
And they all come from card services, and a smaller number from
something like the thing that calls 911 if you fall down. And maybe a
third company but I don't think so.
Why do they call over and over agin. Havent' they caught on t hat I'm
not buying. Forget about my time, what about their time?. Isn't their
time worth anything to them.
I'm looking for the same kind of thing. Home land line phone sits with
cobwebs for months, but I need to keep that number for elderly
I'm thinking about getting an AT&T prepaid phone. Buy $100 and it's
good for a year, and you can keep the same number. Then if I decided to
go back to land line, just have it installed again and the number put
Time Warner Cable here is $19/month for internet and $10 more for phone.
I'm thinking about getting the internet only. Then if the prepaid
phone doesn't work out, I'll at $10 and try that.
I found out the price trumps quality with most people. I would pay
extra for good audio on the phone, but not $80 vs $15.
First of all, you should be able to get a land line with minimum stuff
for a whole lot less. I'm an old time telephone guy and will probably
always have a land line. In fact, thanks to my telco, I now have a
free, 2nd land line ... I guess there are too many people abandoning
copper for cell. But mine is connected to a 2 line phone and the
fax/modem card on the computer. When I moved here in the western
mountains of NC 5 years ago, cell was pretty bad. Verizon has made some
improvements to their cell towers; I can actually walk around with only
a few dropouts. Gee, I actually said something good about Verizon ...
amazing. But, it's no where near as good as a real copper based land
line. Back in the day (I hate that phrase) if we would give people
service twice as good as the best cell service, on land lines, we would
be fired. Now people just accept "can you here me?" "are you there?"
Also, there are those cell adapters, as many have said, that make your
in-house string of copper based phone, work with cell. Walmart,
Verizon, etc. have them. I know a few people that have them here and,
when talking to them, it's "what happened, I can't here you", etc. And
of course it's always my fault on the land line .... sure.
I think I heard somewhere (maybe even here on another thread) that
you can get the tone the telco uses to say "number isn't in service
anymore, dude") and put it on your answering machine. I am wondering if
the same might be available in .wav files or similar. I could then
answer the phone, hold it to my computer speakers and let it rip.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
my great aunts verizon copper landline quit working. the drop was rock hard, still had the old carbon pile lightning arrestor, no NID.
she called verizon and they wanted to upgrade her to FIOS, when all she wanted was a working phone line.
so I went over and we talkked to the repair tech who was sent out. he was very nice everyone else worthless.
We told the tech either replace the drop, or cut it down she wouldnt ever be using verizon anything. a argument occured with techs boss.
in the end we won new copper drop installed:)
I told the supervisor just cut it down or replace all the bad wiring, or give me your name I am writing to the president of verizon how you just cost landline another customer.
the worst customer service I EVER GOT was FIOS. Finally had them remove every verizon landline hardware from my home.
Not having reliable FIOS phone service for 3 months lit a fire about verizon
I mentioned that I have a FIOS line to my house. Average cost is about
$35/month. I use MCI long distance service and have an international
charge to allow low cost calls to Canada and Europe. I use it as a
business line and bill it out to my main client. Have had no problems
with it. Use Comcast triple play for rest of the house. Comcast can be
a PITA but dealing with Verizon is far worse.
Our services are all underground and copper might have been 40 years old
and was badly deteriorating. Verizon had to get permission to bring it
to my house as they have to put the battery backup and other box
attachments to the house as well as string the optical line.
Talk about a mess as the crew that brought it to the house, brought it
to the wrong side of the house and when installation crew came in they
had to be called back. Cable is only buried about 6 inches and wonders
all over my front lawn.
About the same time that year, Comcast put in a new cable and
accidentally cut Verizon's line. Verizon was sloppy too and a neighbor
had the optical cable laying across his driveway and it must have been
driven over a hundred times.
This may be what you want
I wondered about that myself. I think you just want the three tones
and you put your own message in. It *might* trick the robo dialers
into removing your number from their database. but I doubt it would
last long. They probably try it again after a month or so, assuming
someone will have it by then.
Some of the robo dialers simply call the whole10,000 number LATA.
That is why you hear the pause after you answer and sometimes it just
disconnects. They don't put a live person on until the dialer thinks
he has a live answerer. If nobody is available in the boiler room, it
We can get a signal at random places around our property, but those
locations seem to vary from day to day. Maybe atmospheric conditions
changing, I don't know. Indoors, there is one spot at the end of our dining
table, near the front door that seems better than others, but that's not
reliable either. :)
We only get two or three a year. If I had a repeat offender I could add
them to my blocked number list, but it doesn't happen often enough to worry
about. As soon as I realize it's a sales call, I hang up.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:34:55 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
A couple years ago we rented a house in western NC (Nantahala area)
and the best part of it was no cell service and no WiFi
We were truly "on vacation".
We could hike up to the top of the mountain and get 4G or drive down
to the hot dog stand and get WiFi
This is the hot spot
There was also a little store nearby with WiFi.
You had to be a chip shot from this building
I have a friend who enjoys screwing with these people. He tries to
keep them on the line as long as he can without buying anything, under
the assumption that this hurts them more than any other strategy.
There is merit to that idea but I just do not have the patience.
I do wonder if that could get you off the list if you were really
I did that, 3 or 4 weeks ago.
Webpages said that it was no longer very effective, because the
spammers' new software now continues to listen to see if there's a
message. Of course the phone company plays a message too, "We're
sorry. The number you have clalled is no longer in service. Please
check the number you have called and call again or call the operator."
My normal message is no longer than that, but if voice recognition can
tell what I'm saying versus what the phone company says, they could
figure out that it's not really disconnected. And that must be what
those webpages are saying the software does.
That wouldn't work in a timely manner. The tones have to come right
after the phone stops ringing, I think. But what you can do is
change the recording on your phone machine, and maybe even voice mail,
though I only have a 1970's style phone machine**. It took me 10 or 20
tries to get the timing etc. right, but only about 10 or 15 minute
I unplugged my phone machine and brought it where my computer is. I had
to play the 3 tones several times to get them loud enough and get the
timing right (how long after I clicked Play did it really play) and once
I did that, I had to learn the routine for recording my outgoing message
(3 steps) and I had to hold the phone machine with its microphone up to
the computer speaker(s) while keeping a finger on the button, which when
released, ended the recording of my outgoing message.
Then I had to wait what I thought was the right time, about the same
time as the phone company message waited, to start my message, which I
had to say correctly. not so easy in the first place and harder when
following all this other stuff.
But I like how it turned out. Strangely, no one who has left a message
has asked me about the 3 tones. Maybe I told most of them months ago.
I still get 4 kinds of calls**, those that hang up right after the 3
tones, those that hang up in the middle of or right after the whole
message, and those that leave a message.
The number of messages from spammers really does seem to be going down,
but I can hardly believe it's because of the three tones. Still, I knew
I'd feel this way if the number went down, and I also knew I wanted to
try it, no matter what, to know for myself. I plan to leave the tones
on for at least 6 more months. My old machine had replaceable outgoing
message tapes, microcassettes. That was better, because I could change
messages without erasing old messages.
**And I don't have caller id so I have no easy cheap way to see if
anyone I wanted to hear from hung up without leaving a message.
**Voice mail is useful if you need to get your messages from other
locations, but I don't, and even if I did, this phone machine will do
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