Same here. I can see the 3/4" iron pins. I pointed this out to my neighbor
and he says he does not know what those are and ignored the survey.
I think I will wait a week and go talk to him again, if that does not work,
then I will take a more drastic approach.
I'd suggest you just go down to city hall, give them a copy of the
survey (and insist they keep it), and indicate where you intend to set
the fence. Have them issue you the proper permit for the fence. With
that in hand, send a registered letter to your neighbor including
copies of the survey, the plans, and the permit, with a request that
his vehicle be removed from your property by a specific date. At that
point it'll be up to your neighbor to initiate proceedings to stop
you, which will mean hiring a lawyer and maybe having another survey
done, too. There's a very good chance that his lawyer would just look
at your survey and tell him he's got no case.
If you want to play it safer, you could schedule a meeting with the
city inspector or engineer, and advise them of the dispute with your
neighbor while applying for the permit. That way they won't be caught
by surprise if/when the neighbor calls about it. Every city gets calls
about fence fights on a fairly regular basis, so their city inspector
or engineer could probably advise you as how to handle the dispute.
The advantage to this strategy is that you'll have them on your side
from the beginning; the disadvantage is that they might want to delay
issuing the permit until the dispute is resolved. That's where your
providing them with a copy of the survey comes in handy - you're
giving them your evidence upfront, which should help them reach their
If your neighbor decides to hold a grudge over you making lawful use
of your property, don't feel compelled to keep trying to repair the
relationship. Just continue to be civil and hope that he eventually
This is the best post so far.
I definately think it's worthwhile pursuing this, and right now, and with as
much legal groundwork laid as possible. This isn't likely a neighbor you'd have
a good relationship with anyway, and, if you wimp out about this issue, he's
likely to take more advantage.
I had to do some territory-defending with both my immediate neighbors when I
moved in, with one we've long made amends and get along well (and they've even
admitted their wrong on the early problems, although that wasn't necessary by
me); the other has moved away after having pretty much pissed the rest of the
neighborhood off on other things.
One thing - make sure a fence on the property line is legal; it is in my
munincipaltiy, but not in many. I considered putting up a fence between myself
and the problematic neighbor (even in an easment area), and in considering
whether or not it should go on the property line or not, some friends and
relations pretty much convinced me that putting it on recently surveyed property
line is the way to go, as maintaining the ohter side of a fence within my
property can be a hassle with a bad neighbor - might as well put it on the line,
let him have the nice side (or put up a fence where both sides are nice), write
off what paint or whatever he may do on that side, and be done with it.
But this guy is majorly stepping on your toes, and the Nice Neighbor approach
has gone as far as it will go. Time to get legalistic and to act according to
your interests only.
Minor correction - I needed to deal with one neighbor when I moved in 12 years
ago (the one where we get along fine now), and the other nine years ago after
they bought the undeveloped lot next to me and put a house on it. Then decided
my backyard was a conduit to wherever they wanted to go, even sending some dozen
of guests across it to get to another house's pool. But still. I take a live
and let live attitude as much as possible, but the living and let living
shouldn't be happening on my property.
a angry neighbor can make your life hell....
dogs barking police calls, noisey brawls, nasty friends. just to name a
at least try to be nice, and find a impartial person to check out the
we inally moved after a neighbor dispute that began much as this one
did. they did EVERYTHING to make us unhappy. were very successful. my
grandma bnever really got over moving, and always missed our old home
Only if you're a liberal, and don't mind smiling while people are
kicking you in the teeth.
m Ransley wrote in message
The best thing to do is make friends, get some booze and food and invite
him over. Making an enemy might ruin what you just bought, neighbors of
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:15:36 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
It's strange that you think the OP's problem is related to
Or maybe you think that any advice that promotes friendship and peace
comes from liberals. That's quite an indictment of conservatives.
But you're only speculating. Send the original post to some of your
conservative friends, without saying why, and see what their advice
is. Please, let us know what they all say.
What's stupid about that? It works really well where I am. If a car is
"junked" meaning it doesn't have current registration etc., sitting in
the same place over 72 hours, the code enforcers (in my area Police
Partners) are on it in a hurry. Might work a lot better than grabbing
your gun, though maybe not as satisfying. :-)
Abe wrote in message ...
The original post said:
"The neighbor has parked a vehicle on the grass with half the car over
on my side. The hood is up and the engine is out and he is apparently
fixing it in his garage."
It's his neighbor's car, and his neighbor works on it. It's not
abandoned or junked. Jeez, how about a little reading comprehension?
On the other hand, if he wants to complain about it as an eyesore,
that's a different story.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:25:37 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
Those cars are really junked or abandoned. They're stolen and
abandoned, and the owners have no way to find them. Or they're
abandoned by the owner who is never coming back for them.
So it's usually good to call the police.
The OP knows exactly who this car belongs to. That's why Abe asked
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