that's why god invented self cleaning ovens. i just run a cycle, and
there's nothing left but a white-ish powder. i just don't that often in
the summertime because it adds a lot of heat into the house.
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:41:58 AM UTC-6, Danny D wrote:
Oh! Oh! That oven looks like it needs cleaning...put that on your
list before you forget. Please use proper gloves and use a recommended
oven cleaner. Do not inhale the fumes...they will burn the lungs.
Makes no sense to clean an oven without understanding HOW
the oven cleaning process works (and what it is that is
happening to the crud, and what that crud actually is).
I looked up oven cleaners, and the EPA says they're just
potassium or sodium hydroxide but it doesn't say HOW they work
or what it is that they're cleaning.
Googling a bit more, I see that "saponification" of the baked
on oils and fats is apparently the main mechanism. Hmmm...
how does lye do that? I wonder...
Never having cleaned an oven, I wonder aloud why not just soap
& water; but then I read all the reports on how "elbow grease"
is the key ingredient for good results, despite manufacturer's
claims to the contrary.
Googling for "how oven cleaners actually work", I see people
recommend anything but soap and water!
a. Lye (sodium or potassium hydroxide)
b. Diethyl glycol alkyl ethers
e. Citrus oils
f. Baking soda + vinegar
h. Washing soda (whatever that is + dish detergent
i. Salt (sodium chloride)
(and probably a few more)
I'm going to sign up for Consumer Reports and see what they
have to say about how oven cleaners really work.
sandless grout is softer than sanded grout. i have 1' granite tiles with
very thin grout lines. grout should be just below the surface of those
tiles, and smooth. either it was a bad job, or it's crud.
you might put a paper towel over the lines, dampened with a strong
gleaner (409 or such) for a while. see if it gets really soft. if so,
this is why granite slab is so popular, btw. no grout.
That's why I have formica.
but you have something fancier. Don't mess it up.
The first two pictures look black. Where did your family find black
crud to match the black grout?. I'd leave it alone until she
complains, and even then I might leave it alone.
I'm a guy and no feminist, but I'd be made if someone messed up my
kitchen after I told, or asked, him not to. And even those with 100%
A records make mistakes.
I spilled some inkjet ink from a printer on my bathroom floor, and I
had to dig a long way to get all the colored grout out. Then I had to
fill the trench I had made. The home builder probably used the stuff
mixed from a powder, but I got the stuff that's like butter but
stickier. I hope they match. I've stopped looking.
On Wed, 29 May 2013 19:47:01 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:
It's soft. It's cruddy.
When I scraped it away, a beautiful "V" shaped crevice resulted.
On the other hand, the "v" crevice isn't flush with the material.
BTW, is this granite or fake granite or what? How can I tell?
If that grout can be scraped out with a small screw driver like that,
then it wasn't done properly from the start. I would have been soft and
easily scraped away since the tiling was done.
If the grout does scrape out easily like that, then I'd regrout that
If there are tiles on the backsplash and floor tiles on the floor, I'd
check the grout in those places as well.
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