I am bonna build a shed in my backyard and I need to know if anyone
knows of some sources (other than the net) for stainless steel nails and
screws for working with the newer types of pressure-treated lumber out
I hear with the copper content being so high, they rot out regular steel
and even the lighter-weight galvanized hangers, nails and screws.
SO far I can only find screws and nails on line and I would prefer to
buy them locally. I live in Raleigh, NC, os if anyone knows any
suppliers located within a 2-hour drive, I would appreciate it.
Please respond via the group - thanks in advance
Most all hardware stores and building supply stores carry stainless
steel screws. I've never seen stainless nails but they're probably out
there. Word is that you can also use hot dipped galvanized hardware,
but not electro-galvanized. They even make brass coated screws that are
supposed to be compatable with the copper content, but I found that
they break very easily.
You need an electrolyte (IE water and the other salts in the pressure
treated lumber) for the nail into wood to act like a cell and destroy
the nail. If the nail is completely coated in a copper alloy, it
won't react between the iron two metals (no electrolyte).
And for those of you thinking double dipped galvanized is a good idea,
look up Volta's pile.
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil
The lumberyard where I bought the ACQ treated lumber had gobs of
approved fasteners. Call them up before you buy on the Internet.
Shipping will be horrendous. You should be able to find what you want
at Home Depot and Lowe's also. Stainless Steel and Double Hot Dipped
Galvanized are what I know to work. Regular Hot Dipped Galvanized may
work for quite a long time also, but for a shed you may want the good
"I miss. I miss. I miss. I make."
Seve Ballesteros describing his four-putt at Augusta\'s No. 16 in 1988.
Lowes carries lots of stainless steel screws. Some of my local
hardware stores also have a god supply (actually avoid Home Depot and
just look in Lowes and if you have a boating place nearby check there
first). I can get small stainless steel nails lots of places. I use
them all the time (I don't used that galvanized crap anywhere, even
indoors). For the bigger nails to purchase locally you might have to
get aluminum ones instead.
Cripes! I used to live in Raleigh. There is a lowes and a home depot,
as well as a few local places not yet out of business. I can't name the
local places -- the two I frequented died before I moved out.
Any place, including lowes and home depot, that sells the new PT lumber
will also sell the fasteners. Look for double hot-dip galvanized. No,
scratch that. Just look for anything labelled for the new PT lumber
(ACQ, I beleive it is called). They will also have a wide variety of
tie-downs, plates, etc, all made just for PT lumber.
A two hour drive is not very local, but heck, we all like to take a ride
sometimes. How far is Lynchburg VA from you? Maybe 3+ hours?
McFeelys is one of the best sources of both information on the lumber (
http://www.mcfeelys.com/acq.asp ) and fasteners needed for it.
The clips (hangers) for your fence should be ACQ compatable, at least
they are where I live. If you are not sure, ask. I installed over 400'
of fencing recently and getting enough SS nails was a bit tricky. Call
your local fencing contractor for info on where to get them. I did and
I found a good supply at a cedar mill just north of here.
BTW, double dipped galvanzied nails are fine for ACQ.
BTW, you emailed me re. the SS nails.
Just call any fencing contractor in your area. I am sure they will know
where to get a good supply of SS nails. I am way up in Canada. But I
dealt with http://www.aquilacedar.com/ if you want to call them.
USENET NEWSREADER wrote:
First have you confirmed what you have heard? That is is there
documented evidence that this happens? Just being a doubting Thomas.
If this was really true the liability for the PT makers would be very
Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please.
email@example.com is a garbage address.
You know, I've been wondering about this too.
They swapped out the arsenic for something else in PT lumber.
So what? The copper content is likely exactly the same.
(And all of the claims made so far involve the Galvanic action
of two disimilar metals for the problem: iron and copper.)
I doubt if the arsenic present in the old stuff formed any
protective alloy with either the iron or the copper. Does
the new component (some oxalate or something) react with the
protective zinc coating on galvanized nails to destroy it
I'm skeptical of the hype I have read - all of it from guys
trying to sell you expensive special nails or screws.
Come back in ten years or so and I'll let you know if there's
any real difference: I recently completed a small project using
new PT lumber and the same old galvanized nails I've always
On 8/6/2005 10:22 PM US(ET), USENET NEWSREADER took fingers to keys, and
typed the following:
Lowes (where I bought my PT screws, I didn't check at HD). Phillips deck
screws for new PT formula. Anti-camout rib screws (ACR) with screw bit
in box. Duralast coating (looks like drk. grey paint). These screws
claim to be paintable and stainable.
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