I prefer to pull my own lumber, rather than let them load up a lot of
The biggest jerks that I ever ran into were at a HVAC wholesaler.
They refused to sell me some duct board about 25 years ago. I asked the
manager his full name so he could be mentioned on the air at the TV
station, and told him that I didn't want to blame the wrong guy for
refusing to sell to a Christian TV station. His eyes went wide, and he
yelled at one of his workers to pull what I wanted, then gave me 'D'
column pricing. They even loaded it into my truck without being asked.
We weren't doing any HVAC work, we needed to block the sides of the
water chillers on the transmitter to bring the coolant to normal
operating temperature, before we flushed the transmitter and refilled it
with distilled water & antifreeze.
My experience is that HD is crap. Lowe's only slightly better. Went to get
two 12' 2 x 12's, and the WHOLE PALLET had a split in the same place on the
end of evey board running 18". Went to HD, and found two out of about 100
that were decent, but would not have bought them if I wasn't in a time
If you want GOOD lumber, you will go to a lumber yard, as they carry sizes
and grades you can't find at the Borgs. Kinda depends on the project, and,
as stated, if they give you a break for having an account, etc. But I think
any lumber yard has better lumber on average than either Lowe's or HD.
HD and Lowes never put anyone out of business. The lumberyards would
thrive if they had customers. Now, why do customers go elsewhere?
Sadly, many go elsewhere because they think they are getting a bargain
at the big stores and have lots of selection.
There are some small store still doing a good business. They offer
good service, sensible prices, knowledgeable staff, and quality
Many of the places that are gone liked the contractors but got snotty
when the DIY crowd needed a little hand holding. Same goes for
plumbing and electrical supply houses. The don't want the locals,
only the pro. That leaves a big market that wants to spend money.
I lived near a triangle of stores. Hechinger, builders square, and local
busy beaver. I remember about the same time the home depot opened, lost
both builders square and hechinger. The remaining busy beaver us still in
operation and it's dozen or so other locations. The three stores before the
home depot were within walking distance of each other. The screw/nail
section in the home depot is a complete mess. I often go to busy beaver to
easily find something, even if it costs a little extra.
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:31:06 -0600, Martin Eastburn wrote:
I know I've posted this before, but Lowes bought the Eagle Hardware
stores here. Lowes now stands for "Less Of What Eagle Stocked" :-).
That said, I can still find more of what I need there than at Home Depot.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
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