Labor estimate to replace a Lennox HP Compressor

[Vicki Szaszvari]

I am looking forward to that! Except that some are single-owner Ace Hardware stores.

[rockinghorse]

Lynn, If you're going to drop $650 ( a fairly high price for a "labor only" compressor replacement IMO) into a compressor swap on a unit over 4 years old, you might consider replacing the entire outdoor HP. New unit, new 5-year warranty, new everything. Get prices and consider the -next- compressor replacement will be on your dime; over $1K. Most importantly, have somebody qualified try and figure out what caused the failure in the first place. Dirty indoor coils, poor maintenance, low air volume are a heatpumps worst enemy. Good luck with it.

Randy

[TURTLE]

This is Turtle.

The right people have not got to them yet. If a customer buys it and a local hack screws it up like busting the valves with a drum of gas in it and the compressor locks up. The customer can call Ace hardware and say , Hey i need you to come change out my condenser unit compressor for me. I don't know about Az. Law but in Louisiana law says the last person with their Company letter head on the invoice is responciable for parts and labor for 1 year for defective equipment. The customer is the end buyer and Ace Hardware is the Dealer in the chain of buying the equipment becomes the dealer. Vicki just go buy one down at Ace and if you have trouble with it. Call Ace and tell them to come fix it. they will say No and then have it fixed and send the bill to Ace by way of the small claims court. Louisiana has a 1 year labor warrenty on every piece of equipment and you need to check Az. out on how long the labor warrenty is in Az. . It will be the warrenty given by any dealer in your state if they don't come fix it the first year. The local Ace Mom and pop store is in for a surprise if anyone figures it out. Mom and Pop becomes the dealer that sold it and the excuse of I sold it but i did not install it , does not work.

Now you see why Low's and Home Cheap-0 is getting dealer to install their stuff because they want a dealer to look at to go fix it under warranty. Mom and Pop have not been to school like Home Depot and Low's has. If this was not true, Low's and other would sell them to anybody who walk through the door and never require a dealer to install them. If one of their dealers or a dealer of their liking don't install it. You don't get a warrenty and will sign a disclaimer before you get it. Now there is another one on this. That Disclaimer is just about as good as toilet paper if you bring them into court. In Louisiana Disclaimer don't work on customers for they don't know about what they are doing by signing it and the law says if you sell it you warrant it.

Mom and Pop have not been to school yet, but it is coming.

TURTLE

[Stormin Mormon]

When Turtle says "hack" he's usually in the past meant a paid worker who does poor quality work.

[Richard J Kinch]

Everything you say is true ... except I did take, literally, Econ 101.

Yes, retailing earns its markup.

What I object to is outfits that will sell quantity 1, but only to those with certain qualifications that have nothing to do with the economics of the transaction, in order to "protect" the trade.

Reminds me of the hair stuff sold only to "licensed beauticians".

[<Sallyd]

Labor could be $60 - $80 /hr depending on where you live. Compressor or condensing unit, the price you pay is double what the installer's company pays. In fact, everything they use, fittings, copper, freon, is doubled

Figure 1 hr, without ANY other THAN LABOR.

[steve]

Left crosspost in place due to massive ignorance from whoever Sallyd is..

10 years ago...maybe. Not too many service companies will survive on that.

And that would be a lie...at best, you have been misinformed.

So....you give your time away to your employer as well I suppose? If you havent done this, try it some time and see how you like it...

Go in on a Monday, and tell your boss that he has you free, for 3 days..each week..you only need to get paid for the remaining 2.

[bill]

You have no idea of the training cosmotologists go through or the medical aspects. Whine as you like Kinch but the world doesn't revolve around your socialist ass.

[TURTLE]

This is Turtle.

You forgot one small thing. If the condenser unit or compressor burns up in 1 year or less. the servce man charging all this over charges is going to fix it for nothing the next time during that 1 year warrenty period. If we screw up, we have to pay for the repairs for the warrenty period .

A Brand new Chevy Silverodo King Cab fully loaded cost to the manufactor to produce is about $6,800.00 . They sell for $28,000.00 to $35,000.00 and who's getting this big bunch of cash for nothing by selling them. Now they sometimes fix or replace them for 5 years or a 100k miles.

TURTLE

[Noon-Air]

Kinch.........You never answered the question I asked a week ago.........

Just exactly what is it that you do??? how much are you overpaid?? what does it cost you to pay for a roof over your head??? how much does it cost to feed your family??? how much does it cost for your medical and dental insurance?? how much do you pay in taxes?? how much does it cost to run and maintain your vehicles??? how much less can you get paid and still survive??

inquiring minds want to know.

one more question to add to the mix.... How many hours a week do *you* work before you demand to be paid overtime???

inquiring minds still want to know.

[lbecker]

thanks. it is done deal and fixed. most of the replies I had were "flat rate of >= $750"...

The main big old capacitor in there was bad and leaking a lot.. speculation was that its going bad eventually took the compressor out...

whatever. it is changed and done.

- LB

[Richard J Kinch]

Google "Richard Kinch" (no quotes):

16,500 hits today.

9 of top 10 are about me.

Google "Richard J Kinch" (in double quotes), 1570 hits, all me.

For another one of my unusually successful pro-bono do-it-yourself enterprises (besides HVAC), Google "garage door spring" (no quotes). Mine is the second of the top ten, the one with actual advice vs yelling "no touchie!" or trying to sell something.

What do I do? Among other things, I spend a fair amount of time every day answering fan mail from fellow do-it-yourself'ers.

[Richard J Kinch]

Nothing wrong with that. The do-it-yourself'er buys one at a time, you buy 'em by the truckload.

Of course I stocked up on a lifetime supply of R-12 in 1990, and R-22 later, when it was still cheap and legal. I'll bet you pay more today than I did then, carrying costs included.

[bill]

So... have you been paying the tax on that refrigerant every year?

You do know you owe tax on it don't you kinchy?

[Noon-Air]

Thats nice for your hobbies, now answer the questions....

Just exactly what is it that you do??? how much are you overpaid?? what does it cost you to pay for a roof over your head??? how much does it cost to feed your family??? how much does it cost for your medical and dental insurance?? how much do you pay in taxes?? how much does it cost to run and maintain your vehicles??? how much less can you get paid and still survive??

inquiring minds want to know.

one more question to add to the mix.... How many hours a week do *you* work before you demand to be paid overtime???

inquiring minds still want to know.

[steve]

Oh....my....

Richard...you know you need to pay a hefty tax on that much R12...I sure as hell hope you have reported it...cause I know of about 10 that just did.

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[GFRfan]

Then fix it your own damned self. Or better yet, price shop and deal with a cheap hack who'll end up costing you 3 times as much in the long run. Ignorant price shoppers. Sheeeeesh.

[GFRfan]

Then fix it your own damned self. Or better yet, price shop and deal with a cheap hack who'll end up costing you 3 times as much in the long run. Ignorant price shoppers. Sheeeeesh.

[bill]

ROTFLMAO

[Jabs]

Terry, I'm sorry to tell you different but the amount of money that the Big 3 car manufacturers in Detroit, Michigan pays just for workman's compensation insurance alone to manufacture EACH car or truck that comes off the assembly line is about $6,000.

Jabs

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