Kilz

[szabriskie]

I know Kilz is a good primer available in oil based and latex based. My question is: is the oil based primer allowed/available in California.

We are cleaning up my deceased brother's house and there are a lot of stinky stains on the floor. The floor is on a concrete slab. I have used this on ceiling stains and it works great, but I don't know about pet stains on the floor. Thanks in advance- szabriskie

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[cm]

Treat the pet odor stains on the concrete with a malodorant available at any janitorial supply. Malodorants contain enzymes that will eat the smell away. Use it very very liberally. I have done this many times on house flips and it works easily. Any questions just ask. Don't buy the stuff at the pet food stores it is way over priced.

cm

[Don Phillipson]

If paint stores cannot tell you, ask the state goverment consumer affairs department whether there is any sort of a ban.

[C & E]

As for the allowablility of an oil-based product you can call any paint store or even the paint desk at a box store for that answer. Lowe's os where I found out that PA no longer allows oil based. Interestinly enough, I was told that while the gallons were banned there are products that are allowable in quarts only. What the heck is that about? I miss the oil-based products.

[BobK207]

............is the oil based primer allowed/available in California.

Kilz seems to have disappeared from HD & paint stores in SoCal more than a year ago. Shortly after that Zinseer "oil base" primers went as well.

I think these types of products are permanently gone from the California market.

cheers Bob

[hallerb]

On Jan 9, 3:53=EF=BF=BDpm, Sherchat_at_msn_dot [e-mail] (szabriskie) wro= te:

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OUTDOOR POLYURETHANE! like you would use for wood floors Its smelly but works 100% believe me I had a home that was GROSS:(

Clean well apply multiple coats.

You must use outdoor poly because if floor gets wet say under a carpet thats being scrubbed the smell will return:(

outdoor is oil based and wouldnt allow odor to reappear.,

if the home stinks clean all air ducts, scrub walls paint with kilz.

been there done this:(

Its what fire restoration companies do

[ransley]

I question whether Kilz or any oil primer would do, after a fire a very expensive and nasty primer is nedded to stop smokes smell. I would start with Bleach, after a few days Amonia, then the more expensive enzime deoderizers. Bleach kills mold and anything alive and is cheap, you can put it in a garden sprayer and spray and leave.

[hallerb]

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fornia. =EF=BF=BD

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Ransley, you can question all you want, but thats how fire odor control is handled.

You scrape and clean the best you can but nothing gets rid of 100% of the smoke odor. then you coat with Kilz and seal in the odor.

I helped with a friends $130,000 home fire restoration, we did much of the work ourselves.

the trouble with smoke or urine odor is it reappears in moisture, like rainey days.

smoke stink cant be removed from overstuffed furniture like padded sofas.

insurance just pays to replace.

intelligent homeownwers have replacement insurance to pay 100% the cost of new

[hallerb]

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and again outdoor polyruethane for all floors, even concrete ones.

a fellow I met owned a apartment building with concrete floors. a tenant had it overrun with pets urine odor.

the apartment manager after getting rid of the tenant:) removed all the carpet, scrubbed all the concrete floors, painted etc. and had new carpeting installed.

looked good however after new tenant moved in odor returned every time it rained. urine stink migrated out of concrete slab brand new carpet stank bad:(

fire restoration company was called. they suggested remove and send new carpet to garbage, clean concrete floors, dry and seal with 3 coats of outdoor poyurethane normally used to finish wood floors, install brand new carpeting.

it worked no more odors

[cm]

Malodorants are easier to use than varnish and work on permanently removing urine odor from concrete. You can do a large home for less than $30.00 in materials. I do it all the time. Including the house I live in now. 1 1/2 years later and all stink is gone.

cm

and again outdoor polyruethane for all floors, even concrete ones.

a fellow I met owned a apartment building with concrete floors. a tenant had it overrun with pets urine odor.

the apartment manager after getting rid of the tenant:) removed all the carpet, scrubbed all the concrete floors, painted etc. and had new carpeting installed.

looked good however after new tenant moved in odor returned every time it rained. urine stink migrated out of concrete slab brand new carpet stank bad:(

fire restoration company was called. they suggested remove and send new carpet to garbage, clean concrete floors, dry and seal with 3 coats of outdoor poyurethane normally used to finish wood floors, install brand new carpeting.

it worked no more odors