Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
to bullsit its way out of its predicament and fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always.
Dont burn anything at all, ever. I'm all electric thanks, child.
No. The crux of the matter isn't whether something COULD go wrong,
it's whether something is LIKELY to go wrong. If the odds are
1 in a billion, then it's ignorable. If they're 1 in a million,
then it's probably against code, but it's not what *I*d consider
dangerous. If they're one in a thousand, than it's a dumb-ass idea.
(all relative to the expected gain, which is not all that large,
to begin with)
Yaaaa, and who knows, maybe your roof will malfunction and fall on
you... After it happens it'll be too late to do anything....
For the only mildly paranoid, a CO detector will handle the
Every winter I divert my dryer indoors through a homemade HEPA filter
- several automotive air cleaners stacked on top of each other. The
heat is useful, as is the humidity. Cheaper than running a humidifier
all the time.
My dryer is in my large bathroom. I usually throw a load in to dry
before I shower. It's nice to step out to a nice humid, warm room.
John De Armond
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True, but having your head bang into the dashboard in a car isn't an
issue unless something goes wrong with traffic patterns. Does that
mean we should eliminate seatbelts?
Or, to put it a different way, in what percentage of dryers of the
combustion proper? Is it exactly 100% without any exceptions? If
not, then given that there are millions and millios of dryers in use,
it seems wise to have a safety measure in place.
By the way, personally I think there are TWO problems going on when
you talk about a dryer venting its air outside during the winter.
One is the loss of heat since hot air is going outside. But the
other problem is that since the dryer is constantly pumping air
outside, that air needs to be replaced and will be replaced by
outside air that makes its way into the building wherever it can
get in. In other words, running the dryer makes your house more
drafty, because it creates a pressure differential between inside
This second problem could be minimized by opening up the laundry
room to outside air so that the cold air can come in to the
laundry room only, rather than the whole house. In my own case,
I sometimes do this by opening the window in the laundry room
slightly, although I realize very few laundry rooms have a window...
One problem with dryers burning gas completely is that they are
designed to burn gas in regular air. When you vent the dryer into the
house, you use up oxygen and introduce large amounts of carbon dioxide.
Now the air that you are useng to burn the gas has a different makeup.
More CO2 is in the air and less oxygen. So after venting the dryer
into the house for a while, the complete combustion you started with
becomes incomplete combustion. So you start producing CO as well as
CO2. This is why furnaces and water heaters require flues to operate.
Gee, you could just disconnect your furnace from the chimney and it
would be 100% efficient and humidify the house as well. People used to
do that when gas water heaters first came out. Some people were OK,
some got headaches, some got sick and some died. That is where the
codes came from in the first place.
If you have a big house with high infiltration rates, and you don't use
the dryer much, you will probably be OK. If you have a small, tight
house and use the dryer a lot, you will probably get sick or die. With
all the lawyers running around in this country, why risk it. If you
survive, someone else may sue you over it. Why not just play it safe
and follow the code? That is what the codes are for. To protect people
(like you), even from themselves.
Have fun explaining unvented natural gas room heaters.
Which burn much more gas than a drier does too.
Nope, those burnt coal gas, different animal entirely.
NO, they burned NATURAL gas, at least where I came from.
"Have fun explaining unvented natural gas room heaters. "
Instructions for unvented room heaters say to use them with a window
partly open. That acts somewhat like a chimney. Same for kerosene
heaters. The instructions for those also say NOT to use them while you
are sleeping. (Wonder why???)
By the way, have you EVER owned or used combustion testing instruments?
I notice that those who are the loudest in favor of violating codes,
have never tested ANYTHING.
I have used combustion test equipment many times on gas and oil burning
furnaces and boilers. It is scary how many don't burn properly. Then
you come along, with just an opinion and never having tested
combustion, pontificating on how safe violating safety code is. go get
a combustion tester and CO tester and use them on a regular basis. You
will learn a thing or two.
It appears I was wrong. Lawrence Wasserman provided the reason I was
wrong. Now that he noted it, That is what I was referring to, I just had
them mixed up.
In any case it appears you are more interested in proving someone wrong
that in providing real useful information on the safety of the devices.
Still wrong with the claim that most if not all of them have those too.
Still wrong with the claim that most if not all of them have those.
Just your usual pathetic excuse for bullshit that you always end
up having to resort to when you get done like a dinner, as always.
And like I said, if you are a pathetic neurotic, you
can always have a CO detector. They cost peanuts.
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