Is there any way to insulate existing walls in a 2nd floor condo?
Just a couple walls infiltrate cold air during winter... Being on the
2nd flr, can I dump foam or any insulation down my walls to help my heat
bill? What about the downstairs unit? They get MY efforts?
And, also... how bout high ceilings? Can they be more insulated? Not
easy to get to.... I called a few co's and was told, "it would be very
dusty to blow in stuff"...
True? Anyone have alternative sources to put in place? :-) TIA.
On Nov 7, 7:53 pm, LQQK_N0 firstname.lastname@example.org (Paddy Waggin) wrote:
Hey dipshit without knowing how its made it cant be answered
correctly, its folks like you asking questions without enough info
that make an answer impossible. There is no problem, just no info. Its
not a smart as response.
Check the condo laws in your area before you do anything. Around here,
a condo owner owns "painted surface to painted surface", with the rest
of the building belonging to the condo association*. You own the paint,
but you don't own the wallboard, studs, insulation, wiring, pipes, or
outer surface of the wall. Of course, any interior walls are yours,
guts included. :-)
This is a rather technical definition, since I'm sure you wouldn't be
challenged for fixing a wall gouge or driving a nail for a picture.
* According to my architect brother-in-law in Dallas.
My opinion as well. That same brother-in-law has been trying to sell
_his_ condo for several years. Lenders don't want to give anyone a
mortgage to buy it, because the ratio of renters to resident owners is
too high. He keeps it rented out enough to cover the mortgage, usually.
Adding to the lack of info, what is meant by a couple walls infiltrate
cold air? Does that mean that air is actually blowing in somehow?
Without defining the problem, what insulation is already there, etc,
impossible to answer. Also, Steve's comments about who owns and deals
with various parts of a condo structure are on point. In the condo's
I've been involved with, insulation in exterior walls has always been
the responsibility of the association, not the unit owner, because the
unit owner's responsibility ends at the interior wall boundary.
An pertinent story:
My boss long ago was remodelling his attic to make a bedroom for his
daughter. He got all the interior work done, then started on the roof
opening for a dormer window. That's when the condo association showed
up and told him that he didn't own the attic. Everything had to be
ripped out. Moral: If you own a condo, check with the association
before you do anything. And I do mean anything. Some of them have rules
about what you can do to the _inside_ of your dwelling (the part you
The same is true of our condo. The board or management company should
be familiar with
construction and with any other units which have had insulation added.
If there are a number
of units with the same issues, then a group of owners getting together
may advance the cause.
If other owners don't want to put up money, the association may let you
go ahead if you pay
the way......hopefully, they have contractors they have used and can
recommend. Our condo
is two story, with attic spaces above the second; one owner insulated
the attic space, at his
expense; others of the second floor units have huge heat/AC bills.
Thank you, thank you Buffalobill.
That's just what I needed, That low density, slow drying, foam.... The
regular foam would blow my drywall off...
Now all I need is to find out if I do put it in MY walls... would it
sink all the way down to the unit downstairs? Typically would there be a
stud? / barrier? in the exterior walls? to catch the foam and keep it in
my walls at my level....
Thanks again BB....
Typically, in a condo, you only own or control the wall as deep as the
back side of the drywall. The building shell is considered common area,
and any changes must be run through the board, and any work has to be
done by one of their 'approved' contractors.
I personally could never live like that- may as well rent an apartment,
IMHO- but I understand why they set it up like that, so a clueless DIY
can't trash the building for the other tenants.
OP should definitely check his deed and the association rules before he
opens things up.
May wanna check with the neighbors- if the whole building was improperly
insulated, getting it done as a mass upgrade through the association
might bring the per-unit cost down.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:33:03 -0700, LQQK_N0 email@example.com (Paddy
Of course you can insulate walls. One method is to inject insulation
foam or as you suggest use blow-in insulation. The unit under you
benefits in several ways, but also you get a benefit from them too.
High ceilings cost to heat. You might try other energy-saving efforts
such as caulking, door weather stripping, electrical outlets, Heat/AC
leaks, draft stopping rugs, etc or perhaps a few IR pictures of your
condo in winter will show help you locate the more serious leaks. A
stick of burning insence can help locate drafts. Wall coverings can
work too. Get a programmable thermostat if you don't have one (my
night temperature drops to 45 degrees at night, 60 degree day
temperature in winter). Windows can leak a lot too, often not a cheap
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