How much of a toilet's power....

[Bob Villa]

I have yet to find a diagram that calls anything a "dip tube".

[Harry K]

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That's a "jet pump" system. A lot of shallow well pumps can be converted to one.

Harry K

[hallerb]

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overflow tube and fill tube........

around here its called a dip tube

[hallerb]

might be a simple adjustment. but theres two seperate issues.

pressure is the instaneous highest pressure on a line, and flow the max number of gallons per hour.......

a poor flow, where the gallons per hour capacity is way too low, can lead to a low pressure.

anemic flows tend to cause this.....

[Bob Villa]

What sense does that make? Fill tube makes no sense either...it doesn't fill anything.

[JoeSpareBedroom]

overflow tube and fill tube........

around here its called a dip tube =========

Perfect for a discussion of water heaters.

[Vic Smith]

Close enough.

According to the chart below, 2.31 feet of water is 1 psi. That's a bit more than the height of a modern toilet tank off the bowl.

At 6.93 feet the psi is 3. That's also a bit more than the height off the bowl for the old high wall tanks.

As Jeff has said, better design has brought the tank down. They still sell the high tank toilets. I wonder if the bowl design is different.

--Vic

[Bob Villa]

As I have said...the valve is not at the end of the pipe, it is in the tank. Pressure would not be the same.

[Vic Smith]

toilets.http://www.plumbingsupply.com/oldtoilet.html>>

Maybe not, but as soon as the water hits the bowl whatever is left above it in the downpipe and tank still has head pressure pushing it down. They didn't hang them high for kicks.

--Vic

[Bob Villa]

I don't think it was a bad idea...just over-kill. I remember those tanks were open and sometimes you would feel a little spray before they got any depth of water in them. ^L^ I like the old fixtures and dark wood like you see in "The Water Horse".

[Vic Smith]

I have a vague recollection of the flush chain hanging down by the toilet, and getting splashed, but was too young to remember much. Saw a lot of them over urinals, but never paid attention to how they flushed.

Didn't see that. I used to like rich wood grain more, but not stained too dark. Think what changed my view is taking down the beautiful 4-piece crown in my last house to refinish it. PITA, and that 50 year old oak was light as balsa, or almost.

50 years had really dried it up. Just changed my view. Might be my eyesight. Like to keep rooms light colored. Still put new oak crown up in this house and had the oak floors refinished, so I do like wood. All "golden oak." Don't like it around water though. There's better materials, and they look good enough. When I lived summers with my grandfolks the toilet was all wood. Outhouse. Double-seater. Never had a partner when there though. Maybe grand dad put 2 seats in so if you had to go bad you had an option if one seat was occupied by spiders and their webs. I suppose a double makes since, just never saw 2 people using an outhouse at the same time.

--Vic

[Harry K]

God! We are talking about how a _flush_ works, not what the pressure or anything else is in the tank prior to the flush. Any container will have pressure when filled with _anything_.

Again: Once the water exits those "orifaces" it has no pressure, only velocity because it is no longer confined.

BTW you can remove the tank full of water from the toilet, set it over the bowl and flush it. It will flush fine but not as well as designed. Try with a bucket of water.

Harry K

[Harry K]

Double or triple the pressue _in the tank_ not in the bowl. There it increases the velocity.

Harry K

[Harry K]

I certainly did as a kid, Mama/Daddy escorted kids being toilet trained, ones scared of the dark, etc. No grownup double occupancy that I recall though.

Harry K

[Vic Smith]

Think I had 3 siblings during those years, all pre-teen and already toilet-trained. The outhouse was maybe thirty yards from the house. A path through brush led to it. Ozarks. I can't remember ever going to it in the dark, or a flashlight in the house. I would have been one of the scared ones, believing in snipes. But I don't trust my memories much anyway. Been proved wrong too often.

--Vic

[HeyBub]

It was a two-seater so the builder, obviously with a finely-honed sense of humor, could mount a speaker under the seat frame and broadcast "Would you mind moving over one, madam, I'm painting under here."

[Vic Smith]

Still remember that one. A gas station in Missouri way I heard it told. Not told really, read it in Readers Digest or maybe Argosy or some such. Maybe 40 years ago. That joke has a long beard.

--Vic

[Jeff Thies]

They called them high suite combinations and the later toilets were low suite.

Having a high tank has some advantage, it is a big tube and will be full of water when it hits the bowl. But technology moved on.

Like Bob, I'm not

No. They use modern toilets, the Kohler Cimmaron 1.2.

Jeff