I have a relative who has been a lawyer in NJ forever, if I ever
go back for a visit I suppose I'll be leaving the pistol in TX.
What are they going to do if the National Registry for CHL comes
about? Only the non-residents won't be able to carry!
Y'know, you can't please all the people all the time... and last
night, all those people were at my show. -Mitch Hedberg
Pepper spray may be illegal to purchace, but foaming wasp and hornet
spray is perfectly legal and VERY effective. More effective than bear
spray against bears.
Won't get you out of an assault charge if you use it, but it is legal
to own AND carry. Even 16 oz at a time.
Clare really should do some internet research. The "wasp
spray for self defense" has been debunked, many years ago.
Hey, lets lock Clare in a cage with a can of wasp spray and
a hungry bear, and that will help take care of the problem.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
foaming wasp and hornet
Excellent tip. I hope the NJ politicians don't read it; otherwise,
they'll ban it.
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:57:31 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
Better yet, Stormy can come and make a nuisance of himself and I'll
try it out on him. Friends in AlBEARta carry it with them all the
time when they are in "back country".. The non foaming stuff is
pretty useless apparently, but the foaming stuff is supposed to burn
the eyes and snout, and it sticks around, and you can see where it
hits. Also less likely to "backfire" on you if you have a headwind.
Pepper spray into the wind will dissable you AND the bear.
And nowhere in almost an hour of googling did I find it categorically
"debunked". NOWHERE was there ANY indication of it having been tried
and failed. Only one case of some guy saying he got it in his eyes and
it didn't hurt - after being stung 20 or more times by wasps he had
sprayed with the stuff. Must have been different stuff than what I use
on wasps, because once they've been hit, they drop like a rock.
The neurotoxins used in most good wasp sprays can cause serious damage
so you do not want to be casual about it's use.
As a side note - apparently spray Ben Gay is used by bouncers in some
areas where pepper spray is illegal to carry and is also QUITE
If the cops catch you with an out of state gun, one of a couple things
happens. For career criminals, not much. For law abiding citizens, they are
arrested, charged, and prosecuted.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
So why not go next door to another state to buy one?
For one thing, NY and PA are almost as bad.
Here is the complete NJ statute:
Note in 13:54-2.2 Permit required, you need a permit to possess a
handgun. So buying one out of state doesn't exempt you from the needing
Here's an outline of the procedure in my home town:
Note;you cannot go to another state and legally buy a firearm from a gun
store or legitimate dealer(FFL). 1968 Gun Control Act.
in every state,you have to show ID proving you are a resident of that state
to buy a firearm. you also have to pass a NICS backgrgound check,and there
may be a waiting period before you can take the gun home.
UNLESS you buy from a private seller. but then IIRC,you've broken the law
against interstate transport of a firearm. but IANAL.
in most states,people are still free to sell their own firearms without
going through a FFL ---AS LONG as it's not across state lines.
You also have no idea if the firearm you bought had been used in the
commission of a crime.
As has been noted here several times, the NICS check is not required for
licence holders in some states. The license itself is the check.
No laws against interstate transport. How else would one move guns from one
place to another? Some states may have laws against possession within the
state but there are no interstate laws against it. Most states even have
reciprocity with other states, which would be senseless if there were in
interstate ban on transportation.
The seller is not required to ID the buyer. Perhaps if they're both standing
on their respective sides of the border?
Not only is that true, 18 USC 926A specifically permits interstate
transportation of a firearm (conditions apply).
You can still get screwed, however. A recent case involved a traveller from
Boston to Florida with a change of planes at Newark. The second leg of his
flight - Newark to Orlando - was cancelled. That left him with a pistol in
his luggage and a subsequent trip to jail when he tried to check his bag the
UPS (and FedEx) accept firearm shipments ONLY where at least one of the
parties has a Federal Firearm License, importers, law enforcement agencies,
etc. Not individuals.
Further, the package has to go Next Day Air which, for a pistol, starts at
I have a Glock that suffered a malfunction (look up "Glock Kaboom"). It will
cost me $55 to send it to Glock for replacement.
I check the couch cushions daily for spare change. It's slow-going.
Yeah, I thought about that. It's conceivable that the delivery man will note
that the destination is somewhat related to firearms and take company policy
steps. If, as a result of a subsequent inspection, the sender has been found
to have violated the shipper's policies, the sender exposes himself to being
taunted a second time.
Yep. My carry piece, now, is a CZ82. Plus a fold-up .22 as my BUG (back-up
Interestingly, a CZ82 is a "Curio & Relic" firearm which means it can be
shipped to and fro based on a C&R license ($30) from the BATF. An amazing
number of weapons are on the C&R list and, if you have a C&R license, can be
shipped directly to your door without the noxious NICS business. And, some
say, you can use the post office to do the shipping.
It's against federal law. A handgun can only be obtained through a dealer
with a Federal Firearm License in your state of residence.
There is at least one exception I know about: For thirty-bucks you can get a
"Curio & Relic" firearms license from the feds. This enables you to take
direct delivery of C&R firearms from a dealer in another state.
Here's the straight skinney:
There are an amazing number of modern guns on the list - all it takes is for
a museum to write a letter to the BATF stating that a particular weapon has
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