I live in COLD climate. One thing about Honda, it is very easy to start
even in VERY cold weather. I never heard Honda engine dying after 500
hours of use. When I had camping trailer, I had small one which did it's
job beyond satisfaction.
Honda has a good thing and they know it. Nobody else can come close to
the reliability, durability, sound level, and power quality, even
though they claim to do so, and price their products accordingly.
What Honda is doing is encouraging you to work through local dealers
rather than allowing online companies to blatantly undercut the local
dealers. They do it because they can.
This is pro mom-n-pop stores, not anti-consumer.
If you have a camping world in your area, and know someone with a
president's club card, you can get the 2000 for $929, IIRC.
Hi, Bob. I'm a real fan of the Honda EU2000i. In a couple of earlier
threads I posted stuff about my experiences with it. Rather than repeat,
here are the links to three of those posts:
As far as pricing goes, I found a good price at a local Honda dealer. If
you go to the Honda website, you can find what dealers sell/service
generators. Here's the link to that
Honda will supposedly yank their distributorship if they list prices lower
than retail. Last time I looked they were going for about $900.
I had one eu2000 last about 12,000 hours and the second one lasted about
7500 hours. They both were running about 1/3 throttle most of the time.
Instead of buying another one (got kinda pissed off at Honda) I bit my
tongue and bought a cheap Chinese 2000 watt genny from Pep Boys for less
than $200. It's not as quiet and portable as the eu2000 but it has over
2700 hours on it and still runs great and has more power than the eu2000.
Not so good for microwaves and such but works fine for most things.
I also have a 5000 watt genny powered by a Honda GX engine and at around 600
hours the ignition coil went out ($45 generic) and at about 2000 hours the
exhaust valve broke and punched the piston. That cost about $65 for parts.
Also, the muffler holes stripped out and I had to re-tap them and use bigger
screws. Oh yea, right after I replaced the piston and valve the governor
gear wore out and that required splitting the case again. That part was
only about $15. Given all that the engine is fine now and I use it
I wonder how long that Chinese generator would run that same side-by-side
refrigerator on a gallon of gas? I am guessing it would only be a fraction of
the 13 hours you got from the EU2000? When you are talking thousands of hours
on $4.00 gas, I wonder if you still wouldn't be better off with an inverter
generator in the long run.
On the other hand, if you are now normally using your generator at 80%
capacity to charge your batteries, that is a whole different deal.
If you are only running the refrigerator then the inverter genny would
certainly use a lot less gas. I'm guessing the Cheap Chinese 2000 watt unit
would only run a few hours on one gallon. Six of one and a half dozen of
the other. Personally I use the genny mainly for battery charging via an
OutBack inverter so it would be running full speed most of the time. I
figured at around 2500 hours (or something like that) the Chinese beat the
Japanese as far as value per dollar spent to buy the thing goes. Once the
cylinider and rings are worn out I suspect the Chinese engine can be rebuilt
IF I can find the parts. It has an OHV engine that looks exactly like the
Honda GX engine as far as the diagrams are concerned and I would not be
surprised if Honda parts didn't fit right in there. I have not taken apart
any of my Chinese engines yet so I don't know if the quality is there and I
will say that the insides of Honda GX engines look like they were built to
I have an electric chain saw so I need to haul a small generator to my
wood-cutting site and an eu2000 is a lot more portable than my UST GG2300
but it's not all that much trouble to put it in the back of a pickup. At
least it's not worth the other $700 to me for what I'm doing. I have a
worn-out eu2000 and if they ever make a replacement engine available for a
reasonable amount I'll consider fixing it as they are very good generators
and extremely quiet. But then the GG2300 is not particularly loud.
My electric chain saw is such a POS that I looked for convenient ways
to cut up firewood with the gas saws. The Husqvarna is really too big,
loud and powerful but the small MacCulloch is civilized enough to cut
rather than throw branches as long as I don't file the rakers down.
Those are the protrusions between the cutting teeth that control depth
I made two folding sawbucks, X's connected by 2x4s, put the log on
them and cut about 8' at a time. If the log isn't too heavy I put the
sawbucks in the trailer so the cut pieces fall into the bed. The saw's
idle is set low enough that the chain doesn't move when I set it down
on a clear spot to move the log. The noise isn't a problem here, the
neighbors are bikers and construction workers with their own chain
My reply to your post got lost too...
I would guess it would run about three hours on the same amount of gas.
From my experience the inverter gennies are far superior on gas mileage when
running small loads. But, like you said, it doesn't make much difference
once you get up around 3/4 load or more.
One thing that seems to get overlooked is that the eu2000 is rated for 2000
watts for only 20 minutes. My GG2300 is rated for 2000 watts continuous and
2300 surge but, as Neon John pointed out, the cheap generator will keep
chugging along if overloaded but the Honda will shut down. If the high
quality sine wave is needed then sure, go with the Honda.
You posted this one OK.
Beats the hell out of my why that one posted. It seems my ISP no longer
thought my six-letter password was adequate and changed it to eight letters.
I forgot the change the password on my NG reader. It seems to be working
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