On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:25:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
I've always favoured un-faced rock-wool batts for ANY basement use as
it will not support mold, will not absorb water, and is 100%
For rhe band/rim joist area of my daughter's basement, we used rigid
styrofoam (sm) (2 - 4 inches) finished with rock-wool. Thr basement is
being finished, but the rim-joist area is open to the suspended
ceiling, so we still wanted.needed it to be fire resistant.
Exactly. Clerks are clerks. What do you expect for 8 bucks per hour?
If you're asking "construction" questions of a clerk (or "associate"),
you probably shouldn't be doing your own work.
Some folks actually believe all of the marketing propaganda and expect
the big box to be a place where the staff is happy and smiling and oh so
knowledgable. Sad part is it works and thats why stores spend millions
to tell everyone how good they are.
Except that nothing is absolute.
I (and others, e.g. benick) occasionally do find an big box employee
that knows what he is talking about.
I spoke to a HD flooring guy who came up with the perfect solution for
a transition issue I had a few years ago. Turns out he retired from a
local flooring store after many years and was now working "just for
I spoke to a grizzly old guy in plumbing who spoke Shark Bite and PEX
fluently. He saved me half the cost of a (small) project by pointing
out the hidden gems on the bottom shelf that he says "no one ever
I had a friend that was a licensed contractor who took a PT job at HD
on winter weekends just for the extra, basically stress-free cash. He
was a licensed plumber and worked the plumbing aisle. Lucky was the
customer who asked him a question because they were going to get the
In the case that started this thread the very first person I asked my
insulation question of gave me the correct answer for the correct
reasons, as verified at the manufacturer's site.
The only reason the "3 different answers" issue even came up is
because I did a little test. When the "senior" guy in the insulation
aisle asked me if I needed help I decided to see what he would say if
asked the same question. I'm not so naive to think that they only give
orange (or red) vests to highly skilled craftsmen. I also have enough
knowledge and experience to be able to judge whether an answer makes
sense or not. So I told the guy what I was doing, got the opposite
answer than from the first guy, told him so, and left without making a
In a perfect world the second guy would now go off and find out who
was right and either learn something in the process or go teach the
other guy so that they would both be able to answer the question
correctly next time. Do I expect that to happen? Who knows? Maybe I
was forceful enough in my response and maybe the guy has enough pride
(or arrogance) to either (1) want to know the correct answer or (2)
want to prove to the first guy that he was right.
The rule with Home Depot is, the less the person smiles mindlessly,
the more he or she knows.
I used to live near a Lowe's and a Home Depot, and the people at the
HD were a lot better and didn't give out gross misinformation, like
saying type N mortar was stronger than type M or S. OTOH when I went
to Ace Hardware for some mortar, they not only knew the types but also
the actual PSI ratings.
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