So who is to "blame"? Walmart or the consumers who demanded a cheaper
Who is to blame, the store that lost it's business is to blame. Blaming
others has never been a good excuse for why a business fails. Again I
mention, near me an old hardware store with lots of big competition, they
beat the competition prices and service, and they are constantly expanding.
Competing does not just mean cheaper. Service goes a long way and if the
store does not provide a compeditive alternative attraction they will go
I had a similiar experience, with a Home Cheepo bolt.
Problem was, I was trying to atach the lower bracket of an
alternator, on my van. The bolt sheared off. I had not
torqued it very much. 3/8 drive wrench, no extender bar, and
not even much muscle power. Not with any real torque. I
decided to leave it there, and eventually junked the van.
Not necessarily. I had a similar problem, likewise, an alternator on
a van engine. In my case, the entire top of the alternator hung off
the extended bolt shaft. I changed to a grade 8 bolt and it snapped
right off from vibration within a couple days, the grade 8 being too
brittle. Went back to a grade 5.
I like t his group. Lot of first hand wisdom. Maybe grade 5
was the way to go. Sigh. Well, the van has been junked, ages
ago. I guess for the next time, I'll try grade 5, and let
the class know how it worked out.
Yep. People don't understand that when you harden steel you're narrowing
the margin between yield strength and ultimate tensile strength. Get it
hard enough and there's no yield at all--it doesn't move until it breaks,
where a weaker bolt will bend just a tiny amount and relieve stresses, and
incidentally work harden a tiny bit in the process.
'Ya know, I sheared off a 1/4" machine bolt I bought from HD a half a dozen
years ago. Same deal, was tightening it up, just past snug, when it turned
I figured it was a fluke, but maybe this last go round will be enough to
convince me to steer clear of the bright shiny objects in the grabit bins.
All is relative. Grade bolt, pilot hole, lengh of wrench handle,
strength of operator, number of beers, etc. Frankly, I was surprised
to hear of such a thing as a 1/4" lag bolt.
If I need any quantity of hardware I drive right past Lowes and go 5
miles further to the good old hardware store. I'm not so sure the low
grade stuff is any better, but it's surely less expensive! And if I buy
the grade 5 or 8 stuff, I know it's also a lot less expensive. Just
last week I was buying some 1/2" x 4" bolts and mentioned to the cashier
(who is also one of the brothers that own the store) how I passed Lowes
to get there. They were $1.18 and he knocked off the 18 cents to make
them $1 each. Later stopped at Lowes for something else and checked
their bolt prices. The same 1/2" x 4" bolt at Lowes, $2.34.
I had that happen to me helping my friend build a deck using bolts
from the big box store. We snapped two of them off. Thats when I
turned my friend on to Howes Hardware. Best place I know of for
industrial quality fastenerd..
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