Google is *NOT* your friend !! It is one of the biggest data-mining
operations on the web , and they have been known to turn over your info to
the feds . A much better option is www.Startpage.com , which uses Google's
search function but they do not record or store any of your information .
There are other search engines that are similar , but I like startpage .
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:58:58 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
So you say. I'll bet Google will find him his tap table. Google works for
me and hundreds of millions of other people. Google's Android works mighty
fine on my Smartphone. I've had no problems with google invading my privacy. What do you have to hide? This is like the nuts that have it in for MSFT,
Apple, and insist we should all be using Linux. I say, use what works for
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:40:33 -0800 (PST), " firstname.lastname@example.org"
Samsung let me back up my phone contacts and data straight to my
computer, but for my android phone, Google wanted my phone number before
it would do anything.
Every time I log in to google it wants my phone number.
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:48:28 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
I don't, but most people with Android phones do. It's the only easy
way. After going through the phone enough and asking around enough, I
figured out how to do it without google.
Do like "sign in" better?
Or if you're really interested in why, and not what's in quotes, I don't
remember, but for some of the things I do, a log-in screen appears.
Posting from groups.google would be something that causes that, except I
haven't done that for a year or more.
Reading gmail would be a reason to log in, but I don't have gmail.
I don't remember what I do that brings up the screen. It threatens me
with something like that they won't be able to to get a hold of me if I
lose my password and they don't have my phone number!!! (They could do
what everyone else does, ask for the name of my best friend's teacher's
first pet's name.)
They may have changed that. This time it said
"Add Gmail to your Google Account
By completing this form, you're upgrading to Gmail, email from Google.
Gmail works on any device, blocks spam, and much more."
[I think it's funny that they call it "upgrading". it's just another
email account, and iiuc, it's not even POP mail, just webmail.]
"You'll be able to sign in using your new Gmail address, which will
become the primary email address associated with this account. We'll
send account updates, invitations, and other notifications to your Gmail
a@b will become an alternate email address on this account, and you'll
still be able to sign in with it.
If you prefer, you can create a new Google Account with email, and leave
this one as-is."
https://accounts.google.com/b/0/SignUp?service=mail Here's their
sign up for a google account screen and it wants the mobile phone number
(they call it) too. But I can't tell if they're insisting on a number
in the field. I could make up a number, but I don't want to drag
whoever has that number into this. I could use a 555 exchange. Maybe
next time, I will see if it falls for that.
No, it's not the _only_ easy way. If you are willing to spend $5 MyBackup
Pro is pretty darn easy and allows you to back up everything on your phone
to your own SD card. No need to get Google involved, since that what people
seem to be afraid off.
I was interested in "why" regardless if we call it "log in" or "sign in".
It's too bad that you don't remember what you do that causes Google to ask
for your information. That sure seems like something to avoid doing. ;-)
... Google stuff snipped....
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:49:20 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
But, to be clear, the way I figured out is is not easy == in fact it's
in two parts, one for contacts and one for photos etc. -- and since I
haven't added any contacts etc. I haven't done it for a long time and
I've already forgotten parts of the procedure, like where, at least, in
my computer I put the info and where exactly in the phone the info is. .
When I was asking around, no one who replied mentioned this. Maybe it
wasn't written yet. I certainly saw the need for something like this
and I'm glad someone has filled it. Thanks.
In fact, this was one of the things about Android that annoyed me enough
to consider buying something else. I bought my phone used and ebay says
it's still worth 75% of what I paid for it.
Wait a second. You said "to your own SD card" but what is the purpose
of https://www.rerware.com/MyBackup/Webviewer/ Which uses a PIN and a
password and views something on the Web, "MyBackup Web Viewer" Does
Rerwares just store my data on its computer? . I want something
like Samsung PC Studio3, that puts the data on MY computer. Where I can
edit and add contacts using the computer which is much easier to type
with than using the phone
Are you saying the final destination is my own SD card, but it resides
on their computer druing (and after) transit? Based on the privacy
policy, that seems to be it. If it were necessary to provide info to
someone else, like it is when one buys something, I would do it, but
there is no reason something like Samsung PC Studio3 couldn't be written
for Android too.
It's bad but not that bad. Next time it asks, that will be a reminder
of when it asks. Maybe I'll forget again, maybe not.
Because if they didn't store the data at least for a little while,, they
letting Google store the same data. Google has desires of grandeur, and
I doubt this company does (until it's bought by Google, of course)
But this would be better, where the data goes straight to my PC and then
straight back after I've edited it, and added new contracts, and indeed,
I think I found a few programs that do this.
I googled Android Back up to PC and got several hits.
This is just a list. I have barely looked at the list and am not
recommending any of these. Except the first from PC Magazine. Just
ignore the parts about Google and gmail. Helium looks good too, even
the free version, buit the paid version is also only $5.
I don't think I googled for this when I first wanted it, because I got
pretty far on my own, and just didnt' know where the Contacts were
stored. They didn't show up with windows explorer, because it turned
out, I had to export them from where they were to some place on the SD
card. On the way back I had to import them. These commands were
listed in the phone but I didn't appreciate what they were for. Some
girl told me.
Thanks, Dad, for the encouragement
I just look at the website I linked to and I can understand your confusion.
There is not a lot of information at that site. Instead, search for the app
on your smartphone and read the description given there. It is much more
You have 2 options: back it up to their server or back it up to your own SD
card. If you chose the SD card option, they never see your data. I can
prove that by setting my phone to Airplane mode, turning off Wi-Fi and then
performing a local backup to my SD card. It works fine, so unless they are
coming into my phone once I reconnect to the network (which I doubt is
happening) they never see my data.
...probably useful links snipped...
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:57:01 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
The SD card IN the phone? So after that, I have to copy it all, or at
least the contacts and the photos, etc. to my PC, right?
I saw the two options, but I figured that "to their server" was backing
up, and "to the SD card" was restoring.
I guess, if that's what you want to do. Another option (mine) is to simply
back it up the SD card and the store the card in a safe location in case
you lose or damage your phone. I don't need all of my phone data on my PC.
The stuff I do want, such as pictures, etc. I can copy directly just by
mounting the phone as a drive.
There is nothing on the web that is your 'friend'. The whole internet is
based on ad revenue. You might say that these newsgroups are friendly,
but then you have the HomeownersHub, et al. which steals the posts here
and puts them on their website which is funded by ads.
Why is that an issue? I frequent many forums where I both get help and
provide help on subjects ranging from software applications to car repair.
If you asked me to tell you about any of the ads on those websites, I
couldn't. I just ignore them.
If I ask a question about fixing a 2002 Mitsubishi Galant and someone helps
me out, that's friendly. If someone asks a question about VBA programming
and I provide an answer, that's friendly. If either one of us follows up
with a sincere "thank you" for the help, that's even friendlier.
Who cares if the website is funded by ad revenue? As long as i can give or
get the help I went to the website for, the ads don't matter.
Granted, there are websites where the ads so obnoxious or set up so that
they make it hard to use the website. When I encounter one of those
websites, I click the little X in the upper right corner and never go back.
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