I recently needed some concrete work done here in AZ. We have a lot of
illegal Mexicans down here. I decided to give them a try. I got off real
cheap on my stamped concrete work. They work from morning till dark, at
a rate of about $4.25 an hour. Nice work if I might say so myself!
I'm hiring them to do some stucco work.
My question is, why is everyone against illegals? Hey, they work cheap!
Just toss them a beer every now and then, and in their drunken stupor,
they'll agree to anything.
It really is like giving a "legal" worker a coffee break. I still have
to re-train them.
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
To save you a bit of money, it cost the rest of us tax payers
money - lots of money.
If they have kids, tax money goes to educate them at roughly $10,000
to $12,000 per year per kid.
If they get sick, they go to a hospital ER and can't / don't pay.
Out insurance and or hospital bills are higher as a result.
They probably pay no federal taxes but at your slave labor pay, they
most likely are on welfare. You know who pays for that.
Need I go on? I hope I have done something to relieve a bit of your
Its not engraved in granite that one born in the US by foreign visitors is
automaticallly a US citizen;it can be changed,if the US people wish to do
IMO,inviting more young immigrants is not going to "fix" Social Security,it
was a scam from the beginning.
Our legislators did not even invest the SS funds,they spent them,Wrote IOUs
for the funds.
On 27 May 2007 04:40:34 -0700 in alt.home.repair, Frank
They won't be spreading pinestraw forever. They came here for a
better life, and they will have it. At what cost to the rest of us,
is the question.
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
-- The Jam
I thought of that as well, but it gave me a chance to get on my
soapbox and express my feelings about one of my hot buttons, the
other being the totally unfair National Sales Tax that is being
proposed. I may post on that off topic subject later.
Hmm. What you're saying is that we MUST hire illegals and pay them cheaply
thereby recovering some of the money we HAVE to pay in taxes and insurance.
The alternative is to deport all the illegals. Until that happens, however,
simple economics mandates we hire as many illegals as possible.
Thanks for pointing this out.
NO, obviously I am not saying we need to hire them - that's stupid.
The alternative is not to deport them, but to fine anyone or any
business a huge amount per illegal per day. Make it enough that it
might even put them out of business. Who cares, they are cheaters
Also stop all free education, free medical service, and welfare for
Then when no one will hire illegals, they will soon find their way
home, after all, they found their way here.
Well, *I* can't fine them, arrest them, or deport them. *I* can't fine or
sanction anyone who hires them. *I* can't stop the free education, medical
services, or welfare. What *I* can do, in fact what I MUST do, is pay the
taxes to support these endeavors.
Now it seems to me that if I have to pay the taxes to support the illegals -
and I do - it's just common sense that I get something for my money -
therefore, I should hire them every chance I get.
You've given me a whole new outlook on the problem. Thanks for the
When they are disabled, or get old enough, they can apply for social
security. At that point, the feds will want to talk to you about not
withholding their social security and tax contributions, and probably
not paying the minimum wage. You will no doubt respond that you are
ignorant and stupid, but they will still convict you and recover all costs.
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