HELP , need help with water faucet cartridge reploacement:
This is a Price-Pfister tub water faucet cartridge. It came with inaccurate
instructions and no one's at the 800 number, and I can't remove the old
cartridge. Can someone help with this puzzle? I have links to photos,
below, as well as a scan of the instructions.
This is a replacement cartridge from Price-Pfister, for this single-handle
tub water knob. This is for one of those "self-contained" tub stalls that
is built into new homes (this home is 5 years old). you pull the handle out
to start the water and push it back into the wall to stop. With the handle
pulled out, you twist it clockwise to make it colder, and counterclockwise
to make it hot. Price-pfister sent me a replacement cartridge with
(incomplete) instructions. The part appears to match the old one exactly
from what I can see, and the instruction photo matches my tub handle, so I
don't think they sent the wrong part. But I can't remove the old cartridge
to replace it.
Here are some links to photos - I'll explain what the arrows are pointing
Figure 1, the single-handle tub control assembly with the handle and chrome
flange removed, and the old cartridge still in there:
Figure 2, the instructions that came with it, which seem to leave out vital
Figure 3, the cartridge itself (came lubed with petrol)
First, looking at Figure 2 , the instructions, I have removed the handle and
wall flange and "sleeve", but now I need to remove the "collar". This is
not shown in enough detail in the diagram of the instructions for me to tell
exactly how to identify the collar.
Looking at figure 1, my actual tub handle assembly, I first tried to unscrew
the brass colored collar with a pair of channel-lock pliars with layers of
electrical tape over the grippers so they wouldn't scratch the threads. But
the brass collar wouldn't budge. Then I saw, where the yellow arrow is
pointing, a piece of black plastic is protruding through a channel in the
brass collar, preventing it from being able to unscrew.
Looking at Figure 3, the actual replacement cartridge, the gray arrow points
to the part that's keeping the brass collar from coming off.
Looking back at Figure 1 of the actual handle assembly, I then thought,
maybe it's the silver colored piece (pointed to by red arrow) that's
supposed to come off. If you look on the top part of that piece, you see a
flat spot (and another one on the underside) where it looks like they made
it so you can grab it with a plumbers wrench and unscrew it. So I tried
unscrewing it, and the entire assembly and plumbing inside the wall starts
to "flex" when I apply lots of pressure.
I stopped beause I dont want to break anything. As you already see in the
same Figure 1, the black circular assembly behind the round cutout in the
fiberglass stall is already been broken when they installed it; I think it
was supposed to go all the way around the cutout in the stall, and now only
a small piece is actually left holding it to the stall. This doesn't
suprise me since the folks who built these houses did a real crap job, and
they aren't even cheap houses. But thats probably a sore topic covered to
death on this newsgroup.
Before someone suggests just call a plumber, the reason I'm doing this is I
got laid off and cant afford it. Shouldnt have to call a plumber anyway;
replacing a cartridge should be a piece of cake...
Can someone tell me if in fact the silver part in Figure 1 pointed to by the
red arrow really is the part I should be unscrewing? If so, I'll go ahead
and twist it hard with the big wrench but I dont want to rip apart the
plumbing inside the walls.
Thanks in advance for help!
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