The (non-torsion-type) springs on my garage door have never been
replaced since I bought the house about 25 years ago. I'd like to
replace them before I'm forced to.
In looking around the net it appears that springs these days are color
coded on the ends and that people replace the springs with ones with
the same color code. Mine have no color code - maybe the codes didn't
come about until more recently, or maybe it's rusted off... so how can
I determine the proper springs?
Or perhaps he has a "stanley barry style" 1 peice "up and over" door
wiith tension springs on the lever arms. Were VERY common here in
Canada up untill about a decade ago when safety regulations pretty
well killed them. Still the simplest door operation of any overhead
door as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, "extension springs". They do come color coded, with the end loops
painted. This site shows some examples. That would make ordering the
springs much simpler.
They feature a guide to figuring out the springs. It looks easy enough
except I have to weigh my heavy wooden door, which will be difficult.
I'll have to borrow a good scale.
Thanks for the pointer to the site. It seems to have the info I need.
On 21 Sep 2014, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in alt.home.repair:
I found some mention of "Berry" doors, maybe that's what you're
referring to. Mine's not like that - it's a common segmented door that
rolls directly up then folds back along the garage ceiling. An
extension spring on each side. Heavy wood, maybe 5 segments. Probably
weighs at least 200 pounds.
On Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:50:32 PM UTC-4, Nil wrote:
If it were me, I'd just add a safety cable so that if the spring breaks some
day, it won't go flying. What you have may be better than the made in China
crap that you're probably going to replace it with.
If you have some means of measuring the diameter of the wire used to make t
he coil spring, that along with the number of turns on the coil itself shou
ld allow you to get the correct replacement. Good idea to replace after 25
years or more life. When you put in the new springs, I highly recommend t
he use of a cable running down the middle of the spring that is tethered to
something substantial to prevent the spring pieces from doing serious dama
ge if it should break at some time in the future. The internet has lots of
views under garage door spring safety.
On Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:15:37 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote
the coil spring, that along with the number of turns on the coil itself sh
ould allow you to get the correct replacement. Good idea to replace after
25 years or more life. When you put in the new springs, I highly recommend
the use of a cable running down the middle of the spring that is tethered
to something substantial to prevent the spring pieces from doing serious da
mage if it should break at some time in the future. The internet has lots
of views under garage door spring safety.
Good points here...but also measure the diameter of the coil. In my experie
nce these springs break at the end loops...I've taken the old loop and run
it into the spring and held it with a cable clamp (to keep it from sliding
off). It is only a slight overstretch...and I haven't had any come off. (us
e at your own discretion)
Why? If you want to go thru the exercise to size and have a spare on
hand, that's about as far as I'd go.
The car garage doors here were replaced with fiberglass doors
(Reynor???) some 40 yr ago and only one of the four has been replaced so
far. One or more of the other three may eventually go in my lifetime,
but I see no reason to do anything prior to that happening.
Maybe since you don't have a color-coded set go thru the exercise of
sizing perhaps, but why replace something that's still functional and
may be so for another 20 yr?
I want to put safety cables within the springs. In order to do that, I
have to remove the springs, at which point I might as well put new
springs on. Seems to me that 25-plus years is a more than reasonable
lifespan for such things. Most things I've read say they should last
about 10 years or so. Also, my springs look a little stretched out to
On Monday, September 22, 2014 1:25:51 PM UTC-4, Nil wrote:
Ahh.... Now I see where you're going wrong. You don't need to remove
the springs to put safety cables on. The cable just runs up the inside
of the spring and the two ends get fastened to the door track and hangers.
If it were true that you needed to remove them, then it would make more
sense to replace them, because you have them off already.
Seems to me that 25-plus years is a more than reasonable
I agree there is some merit to the replacement strategy too. It's up
That's making work that doesn't need to be done to address the immediate
Agreed on "his choice" but I see no reason to replace until either they
don't perform the function because they have lost tension (not likely
ime) or when they do finally break.
I've one that broke right at the formed hook, lost no turns so I simply
refastened the end. That's been at least 10 yr now, probably a few more
than that as it was not too long after we returned to the farm which was
in '99/2000 time frame...
I didn't mention it, but my question started when I was looking to
install safety cables. I figured that while I was there I might as well
do the whole thing.
Do you really think new springs could be significantly worse than the
old ones? They're just steel springs. What could go wrong?
On Monday, September 22, 2014 1:31:13 PM UTC-4, Nil wrote:
Well, the 25 year old ones might have been made in the USA and the
new ones might be made in some schlock factory in China, using some
cheap crappy steel. It wouldn't be the first thing where I've seen
old parts last forever and new parts fail quickly.
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