Red -- thanks for responses. I don't have an extension ladder. So
by the time I buy a type 2 or better ladder I could probably buy some
used scaffolding and have a nice working platform to dive off of -- or
so that is my thought. The ladder atop scaffolding idea I mentioned
would be a step ladder to get another 3' above the scaffolding -- not
an extension ladder off the scaffolding!! Your picture is exactly
where I need to get.
This is the exact house,
The dormer on the 12/12 is on the back side, it's the upstairs bath,
otherwise this photo is spot-on. The 22' peak is the garage gabel
end. There is a flat driveway on one end to setup on and a deck/
sidewalk on the other. The front dormers on either end I can reach
from the roof. The one in the middle I need to get above the roof
another 3'. The house gabel ends are above the porch roof, so I need
a way again to use a ladder or build a platform on the low slow porch
If this is all you need the ladder for (once a decade), rent an appropriate
ladder. My previous house had cedar clapboards, with a 20' dormer on the
back. I used a 20' Type 1A ladder to paint it (rented scaffolding to put up
On Oct 13, 3:18 pm, " firstname.lastname@example.org"
I might be able to come-up with 12' of scaffolding for < $200 (72" x
30" Perry type). 12' above the ground will get me to most of the
places with that one 22' peak the exception. That's where placing a
small 6' step ladder onto the scaffolding is one idea. Now I have a
platform to reach all levels (with some challenges for the dormers).
I do appreciate the insights given here. Until I actuall stand on a
12' scaffold I don't know how confident I'll be.
On Oct 13, 3:54 pm, " email@example.com"
Seems like scaffolding would be more stable than a ladder. I need to
get up to those places to do some caulking, priming, and then
painting. I'm not too concerned about the time to move the
scaffolding. But I can honestly say I've never stood atop 12' of 30"
x 72" scaffold. The 5' x 7' stuff would probably be better.
I'm tempted to send this thread to my brother, the ex-pro painter. He
lives in Phoenix and what with home prices and all he probably could
use a good laugh.
Let me be sum up what we've determined to date.
You're scared of heights.
You've never done this before.
You're ignoring the advice of people that have.
You're scared of heights.
That's all I'm getting from this. The only semi-serious question you
have is about accessing the dormers. I would tell you to Google
"chicken ladder", but you're afraid of heights so that's pointless
Do yourself the favor and hire someone. You can get any laborer who's
not afraid of heights to paint it while you supervise from the
ground. It'll cost you ten or fifteen bucks an hour, the guy will be
done with all of the high parts within two or three days, and he'll
even bring his own ladder.
R - the bids came in at 3.5K to 5.5K. I don't know how many days
that was intended to be, but given I have other needs for the sorts of
tools (pressure washer, scaffolding, etc) that are needed in the
project I've decided to undertake it. I see value (beyond the 3K) to
doing it myself, e.g. identifying poor drainage spots, future issue
areas, etc, so I'm proceeding with the challenge. Heck I might even
find I like it.
Not if you don't listen to the voice of experience you won't. You'll
make all sorts of stupid mistakes, and hopefully not the "final
I don't care how you spend your time, I don't care what you do to risk
you life, I don't care how you spend your money. Just don't ask for
approval. Other idiots reading this thread down the road might not
know enough to know _you_ don't know enough, and they might follow
We're done, right?
Continue to appreciate the suggestions (most of them).
I bought a pair of multi-purpose scaffolds (aka Perry) from TSC who
had them for $150 each this past weekend. We have only used them
thusfar to get us 2' and 4' above the ground. All I can say is it's
Much better for me than setting up a ladder, climbing, painting a
small section, repeat. I suppose if I was a very good painter, I'd
develop the right muscles and skills to paint rapidly from a ladder,
but for me, the 6' of scaffold space plus another foot to either side
lets me attack 8' of soffit, fascia, siding, etc as if I'm standing on
the ground. One unit alone will get me 6' off the ground which will
be enough to reach 13-14' which is 80% or so of what I need. If I
stack I can get at another 10% or so, leaving that last 10% as the 22'
peaks and a couple of spots on the dormers. Brush on a stick might be
the answer this time -- so long as there's no other prep needed.
Hanging out that bathroom window to get at the dormer on the 12/12 is
an interesting idea. I need to give that some more thought.
Vic & all --
Some good ideas there.
Project is well underway. I bought 2 sets of Perry-type scaffolds.
For stacked use -- about 11.5' top height -- I added a set of 2x4
outriggers to the "back side" that put another set of feet about 30"
out. It's solid on concrete, solid on rock, and solid on grass with
some shimming under the locked wheels. Scrambling up and down the 6'
single scaffold is now second nature -- at 11.5' things are pretty
comfortable as well. For my 22' gabel peaks I did sit a 6' ladder
atop the scaffolding. The scaffold surface is 30" x 72" so there is
good clearance for all the ladder feet. It takes longer to paint
those 22' peaks then I thought -- soffits, backside of fascia, etc ---
but the two 22' peaks are done except for the fascia trim board
(starting to kick myself for not doing that at the same time, even
though it would have meant another brush and color of paint).
Weather here is getting cool -- I'm trying to paint when the temps for
at least 12 hours are > 40. Since I tend to paint noon to sunset,
that means 40s through the night. Its' going to be a bit tougher
now. I ran across another water damage spot, that I'll post
Some points on painting with a ladder on scaffolding -- it's easier to
stand with the dominant hand side of the body away from the wall. So
I'm right handed -- I found it easier to paint by climbing the ladder
with my left hand against the wall and then reaching across, back, and
out to paint with my right hand -- and as needed some with my left
hand. That surprised me a little -- as I figured it would be better
to paint with my hand closest to the wall - that turned out to be
Now onto figuring out how to attach the dormers. Cleats on the roof
and a ladder might be the ticket for much of it. That one 12/12 roof
dormer still presents some challenges -- but as one noted, it's right
out the window of the bathroom.
As for the paint itself -- I'm using Moorgard.
I had a full can from 10 years ago that I used on another project.
That stuff is THICK. I did not have good luck with using a roller.
Any suggestions? Would a different roller cover help? Some paint
additive? A bit of water to thin?
Absolutely! It's not *that* hard. Start at the top, moving the ladder from
side to side. You need to leave a wet edge, so depending on the weather,
maybe only three or four clapboards at a pass. After all the prep work this
part is easy.
I certainly wouldn't. It's expensive paint and a lot of work to waste by
On Oct 13, 3:38 pm, " firstname.lastname@example.org"
It's $41 a gallon. I have the 4" Purdy. The painters I have bids
from all said they would spray on and back brush. I was planning to
roll/brush. I have some 3 and 4 inch rollers I might still try. But
in my one trial the rollers caused too much "bubbling".
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