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If I issue the stop pay I have my money for leverage to bargain . Dont
forget I have the money the crook doesnt. Then we can let a court decide
if need be. I have had to do it several times unfortunatly, 3. All
three i prevaled. Its their immediate Ace card. Court will take a year
and guarntee nothing even if they win. Spitting on the street is
illegal to .
please include all or part of the post you are replying to so that we
know what you are talking about. Issueing a stop payment on a check is
the same as "passing a bad check". Period. The guy didn't get ripped
off. He agreed to pay a price for a service. The service was performed
(and he was happy with the results) and now he has buyer remorse.
Go buy a car. A few days later you decide you got taken on the price.
Stop paying for the car and see what happens.
m Ransley wrote:
he doesnt have buyers remorse. he has expected ignorance that the
electrician was counting on. he had a guy standing there handing him a bill
for 700+ for installing 3 gfi outlets and no wiring. he didnt know what to
do so he paid it. now he has found out how badly he was purposefully
at some point, the ramifications of not making your car payments and simply
turning the car back into the bank are less than being screwed outright. if
you got ripped on the car bad enough it is probably worth it.
see my other post if you want to know what i think about credit ratings.
Go back and read the original post. That's not what happened. The short
version is that the electrician presented him with a quote *before* doing the
work, he thought it was too expensive, but signed it *anyway*.
No, it's not. Not even close. So why did you sign the work authorization if
you thought the price was too high?
It's not reasonable. I make the decision not to do business with companies
that charge unreasonable prices for their goods or services. You made the
decision to do business.
Recourse for WHAT? You signed the authorization, knowing the price
Of course you can. And he can tell you to go fly a kite.
Don't be ridiculous. On what possible basis do you have a claim against this
guy? He quoted you a price, and you AGREED to it.
If you take this to small claims court, you will lose. And you'll wind up
paying *his* legal fees in addition to your own. Depending on the laws of your
state, you might also open yourself up to civil or even criminal penalties for
filing a frivolous, baseless lawsuit.
Yes, you do. And another one for chutzpah, for even dreaming that you might
have a basis for a small-claims action.
Why? He quoted you a price. You agreed to it. Was someone holding a gun to
your head, forcing you to sign that work order?
Yes, you were cheated. But you had _full_knowledge_ that you were being
charged more than you wanted to pay, and sat there and watched it happen.
You've just paid your tuition at the School of Experience. Instead of blaming
the electrician, take responsibility for it yourself, make sure it doesn't
happen to you again -- and above all, be thankful that you only had to pay
seven hundred bucks for this lesson. What if you'd been having an air
conditioner installed, and paid seven *thousand* dollars for a job that should
have cost two?
WOW!!!! With no wires to run you really got taken for a ride. I just
replaced two GFI's at $15 ea. Shut of the power to the outlet and replace
one wire at a time (or make a sketch). The toughest part of doing something
like this is the thinking about it--doing it is the easy part.
Frankly I have a lot more sympathy for the electrician than for you.
He was upfront and above board about what he was going to charge you to do
the work. He didn't raise the price afterwards and hold your feet to the
You, on the other hand, agreed to the work and the price and now, after the
fact, are whining about being overcharged.
Yes, you got overcharged. But you called him...he didn't call you. You
dropped your pants, bent over and said please. Don't bitch about it now!!
I disagree.....as with auto repairs most people have no clue
as to reasonable cost and materials. In fact, that is why the
automotive flat rate manual was born.
So we relie on the interigity of the contractor or repair person.
The company I work that manages 34 apts bldg...has a saying.
We want or contractors and repair persons to make money so they
stay in business and are around when we need them...
but we are not going to be ripped off.
We have paid for rental of airless paint sprayers when one failed in the
middle of a job
which wasn't our responsibilty...but hey, it's $60 or $100 worth of
but inflating prices to that degree is wrong.
if you think it was too high, why did you sign the autoriztion paper and
let him do the work... yes, it was too high... it should have been like
about $200 if it just took one hour to do the job.....
$150 per hr. and $50 for parts....
Passing a bad ck , one where you dont have the funds to cover it is
different than stopping payment because you found out you were
overcharged. Passing a bad ck you can be open to 3x the ck penalty.
Stopping payment you argue your case. I have 3 times, I showed the judge
that my account could cover it. The person just says they felt
intimidated by the contractor and thought it was a days job and after
completion reviewed it with a friend. Bottom line is who has the money,
The contractor probably cashed it the minute the job was done.
Most people have bad luck with contractors that drive paint flaking and beat
up 1/2 ton pickup truck no name with a ladder rack
Those trucks sometimes have religious bumper stickers.
The sum total of their work usually is shoddy in workmanship to say the
I too have been overcharged by religious zealots that claim the Lord helps
Their maligned Christian belief system may make them think their way is the
only belief system for ones reverence of the Lord.
When you (the customer) ask about their work-in-process, they tend to
buffalo you with BS anytime thinking
you maybe questioning their competence by changing the subject to about the
It sort of gives you an idea while they are talking about the Lord they try
to convince themselves by using their customer as a sounding board.
Instead they just continue bending their customer's ears about the Lord.
You do quickly develop a skepticism about anyone that tries to induce
anything about the Lord into a conversation unrelated about work.
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