Dog Crap on Front Yard

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Another reason why more cops should be shot.

voodoo disease 666

[Trey Waters]

Ken:

Don't know if you have gotten this response, but one thing you can look into is a lawn sprinkler with a motion sensor. Usually advertised for keeping deer and such out of gardens.

I would set one up on each corner of your lot, and give any jerks a nice surprise!

-Trey

Friday, Ken Hall poured vast amounts of knowledge into alt.home.repair

[Brian Henderson]

It isn't illegal at all. What is illegal is failing to clean up after the dog. Dog owners can have their dogs shit all over your lawn all they want, so long as they pick it up afterwards.

[Banty]

Really? Perhaps for a public park, but as for private property, what do you think the role is for tresspassing laws?

Banty

[SteveB]

Were it me, I would just put up a Fi-Shock wire. Anyone asks, it is for the training of MY dog, and it is on MY property. Be CERTAIN that all is on YOUR property, and inward from the line. A run of tie wire is almost invisible. Hook it up to a trash can, too. Male dogs love to urinate on trash cans. It will only take once or twice, and the dog will avoid your yard forever. End ot THAT problem.

You put the Fi-Shock away, and bring it out the next time you have a problem. They are available on line for about $40. Don't get the whole kit, as you can get tie wire at HD for about $3 per roll, and cut stakes out of pvc. Spiral it around a PVC perch on the roof for pesky pigeons.

An easy solution.

Steve

[SteveB]

I had a car stolen from my driveway, and I couldn't get them to come out and take a report. I had to go to the station. I really don't believe they will send an officer out to inspect "the 8x10 glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back explaining what each one was." The quotation is only for those old enough to remember its source, but relevant nonetheless.

Doggie doodoo is low on the police department's priority list, and even lower on the court's.

For anyone who does call in to their local police on such a matter, please post what their response is. After they have quit laughing, that is.

Steve

[Brian Henderson]

The only one who can legally be accused of trespassing is the owner and if they are standing on the public sidewalk, you can't do a damn thing about it. The dog is not covered by the trespassing law, you can't sue a dog.

[Larry Bud]

The problem is, unless this is a stray dog, it's the OWNER that needs to be shocked, not the stupid dog.

[Larry Bud]

No, but if a dog bites someone, you can sue the owner. The dog under the law is PROPERTY of the owner. They are liable for the actions of the dog. I think there could be numerous damages argued for this: Health issues, harassment, damage to the property.

He needs to find out who it is, and speak to them civilly, explaining that he's tired of picked up the crap from their dog, and that if they don't stop, he will take them to small claims court.

[Brian Henderson]

The original offender (who doesn't have to say where the shit came from), the apartment managers, other tenants, etc. In the end, the "I'm breaking the law, but you did it first" defense doesn't get very far. Probably the best you're going to get is both of them fined, but in this case where it's an apartment complex, the 'revenge' can also get hit for vandalism, public health risks, etc.

[Brian Henderson]

Yes, and as I said, the owner is legally responsible for cleaning up after the dog and can be fined for not doing so. You still can't have him arrested for trespassing because his *DOG* is on your property.

In order to win in small claims, you need to demonstrate a financial loss. Having to pick up dog crap doesn't cost you anything but time. Now if you could show that your lawn died because of the dog waste, you might have a case. Otherwise, all you can do is have the police levy a fine for violating scooper laws.

[Jim Yanik]

Banty wrote in news: [e-mail]:

That's where a video camera or one of those security cameras and your VCR come in handy(camcorders have zoom lens).I had problems at work with valuable items missing,and suspected the cleaning crew,but the office manager would not believe me,nor take action.(proof of the 'Peter Principle) So,I hooked up a tiny 'spy' camera to a VCR,and taped my work area every night.It only took a couple of weeks to find a couple of the cleaning guys going through my bench drawers,and showing the video to the manager was priceless! (my favorite part!) The entire crew got fired that evening,end of problem.

[Jim Yanik]

Banty wrote in news: [e-mail]:

It could be considered vandalism. Throw some on someone's car,and someone sees you,and signs a police report on it,and there you are.All that's needed is a witness or video proof.

[rb608]

I have a fairly powerful unit around my pasture to dissuade my sheep from exiting, and while I'd not classify the shock as "painful". it certainly is a jolt that gets your attention. It depends a great deal on the dampness of the ground. Worst time was when I backed up into an elevated wire & got it in the back of the neck while standing in a wet spot. Felt like somebody hit me in the head with a 2x4. Never did *that* again .

I can't imagine such an installation in an urban area. Jim's probably right about impending litigation.

Joe F.

[Larry Bud]

Time is money, at least in my case it is. I think someone who continues to let their dog shit on your property, when told to their face to stop it, could constitute harassment.

[Daniel L. Belton]

Or what if the person who owns the yard is disabled and has to pay someone to come and clean up the other person's (Dog's) mess? Then they should be able to prove a financial loss and recoup the cost of having their yard cleaned.

[Richard J Kinch]

As much as I have wanted to do this myself, to do so is to commit the crime of simple assault.

[<electronicc]

I missed reading the original posting but here is a simple trick that I read almost 10 years ago that prevents dogs from crapping on your lawn. I don't know if it will always work but it worked for me. Apparently, dogs will not defacate where there is fresh water. Half fill a container that a dog cannot drink out of, such as a sprinkle can, with fresh water and set it in your yard.

E. Ruff

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Yeah, you'd sure have to make to look accidental. Sorry, I didn't see you when I turned the sprinkler on. Ed

[Jim Yanik]

"R&D" wrote in news:274Ob.8467$ [e-mail]:

Federal crime once you put in in a mailbox,especially these days. At the least,vandalism,note or not.

Any Contract has to be signed by the other party to be legal. Clue;he's NOT going to sign any such thing.

If you can catch the dog -without getting bit,just take it to the animal shelter or dog pound,or call them for a pickup. Dogs should not be running around unleashed,they might run in front of a car,cause an accident,or bite a child(it's for the children!). Unleashed is unloved.Many communities have leash laws,too.