The relevant agency in my city is called "Codes and Compliance". The
police, while perhaps serving as ultimate enforcers, are probably not
over-concerned with dog poop, so I wouldn't make them the first point
of contact. Find out what the regs are, and what reporting and
enforcement procedures are appropriate.
If you are able to be present when someone is leading his/her dog
around to do this, kill 'em with kindness. Rush out with a a couple of
plastic grocery bags, explain the technique of using the bag as first
a glove and then a container, and say something about how "I *know*
you wouldn't want to inconvenience homeowners here." With only 1 or 2
offenders, you might get some mileage out of rushing out,
complimenting the dog, and saying "I have a problem you might be able
to help me with. Some people allow their dogs to go to the bathroom(!)
on my lawn and perhaps you can suggest a way to keep this from
happening." Of course, this must be done as they *approach*, not after
the deed is done.
In the face of hostility, Miss Manners might add "Such a nice dog.
It'd be a shame if something happened to him."
However, actual violence is counter-productive and can lead to serious
consequences for you.
Prevention? A fence, not a shotgun.
These sorts of answers amaze me. Hasn't it occurred to anyone that the
apartment dwellers with dogs may see themselves as Charles Atlases as well?
Wouldn't said person with dog just as likely also have an ethos that ain't
nobody pushes him around neither??!? And, compared to a homeowner, have less at
stake to boot?
I take it that some folks here just feel good posting this stuff, some kinda
catharsis. But I suspect the OP has too wide a view of the situation, and too
much mental capacity to think through to consequences to give this stuff much
You people, (and I say that with reservation) are amazing, truly amazing.
All this shit is worth possible incarceration, loosing his house and home,
and most if not all of his possessions. I am so glad there are still
reasoning people somewhere in this world, and that the OP has enough
intelligence and such to ignore stupidity like this.
"Scared again eh," ???
Stormin,,,Mormin. Scared again eh,
First,there are laws against assaulting a person,and ones against cruelty
to animals.Then,it's also legitimate self-defense on the dog owners'
part;you might not survive the assault.
It's also not very smart to attack a dog owner while his dog is within
Well, yeah. And not only that - it just doesn't move things toward the desired
solution (especially when you have a diffuse bunch of apartment dwellers to deal
with). The mousy dog handler who backs off when the homeowner puffs up his
chest may well make *that* lawn the *preferred* doggie-do locale from then on
whenever he notices that the homeowner's car isn't in the driveway. (And
question him about it - believe me it'll nevvvvver nevvver be hiiim - it surely
must be some ooooother apartment dweller...)
Unless the OP is willing to sit shotgun on his front porch 24/7, the tough guy
intimidation tactics just plain aren't going to work.
That's where a video camera or one of those security cameras and your VCR
come in handy(camcorders have zoom lens).I had problems at work with
valuable items missing,and suspected the cleaning crew,but the office
manager would not believe me,nor take action.(proof of the 'Peter
So,I hooked up a tiny 'spy' camera to a VCR,and taped my work area every
night.It only took a couple of weeks to find a couple of the cleaning guys
going through my bench drawers,and showing the video to the manager was
priceless! (my favorite part!)
The entire crew got fired that evening,end of problem.
Hang out in the window with a camera. Owners that stop in your yard to let
their dog take a shit will have their photo taken, and then you can call the
cops and have them ticketed or arrested. Usually it's a criminal offense to
lave dog shit on someone else's property or in public.
In addition. put a couple or poles in the ground as ring a simple rope
fence. Hand the no trespassing signs on it and curb your dog signs. The
people will know you are serious and will be less likely to walk their dog
on your property. Walk out there with a camera also.
You have to let them know you mean business and may be watching at any time.
Even at night. If someone walks near the line, take a photo. Does not matter
if it comes out, just the flash may be a deterrent.
I had a car stolen from my driveway, and I couldn't get them to come out and
take a report. I had to go to the station. I really don't believe they
will send an officer out to inspect "the 8x10 glossy pictures with the
circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back explaining what each one
was." The quotation is only for those old enough to remember its source,
but relevant nonetheless.
Doggie doodoo is low on the police department's priority list, and even
lower on the court's.
For anyone who does call in to their local police on such a matter, please
post what their response is. After they have quit laughing, that is.
The only one who can legally be accused of trespassing is the owner
and if they are standing on the public sidewalk, you can't do a damn
thing about it. The dog is not covered by the trespassing law, you
can't sue a dog.
No, but if a dog bites someone, you can sue the owner. The dog under
the law is PROPERTY of the owner. They are liable for the actions of
the dog. I think there could be numerous damages argued for this:
Health issues, harassment, damage to the property.
He needs to find out who it is, and speak to them civilly, explaining
that he's tired of picked up the crap from their dog, and that if they
don't stop, he will take them to small claims court.
On 5 Jan 2004 08:08:38 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Larry Bud)
Yes, and as I said, the owner is legally responsible for cleaning up
after the dog and can be fined for not doing so. You still can't have
him arrested for trespassing because his *DOG* is on your property.
In order to win in small claims, you need to demonstrate a financial
loss. Having to pick up dog crap doesn't cost you anything but time.
Now if you could show that your lawn died because of the dog waste,
you might have a case. Otherwise, all you can do is have the police
levy a fine for violating scooper laws.
Or what if the person who owns the yard is disabled and has to pay
someone to come and clean up the other person's (Dog's) mess? Then they
should be able to prove a financial loss and recoup the cost of having
their yard cleaned.
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